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They accuse of us being Nazis, and Obama's got a health care logo that's right out of Adolf Hitler's playbook. Now, what are the similarities between the Democrat Party of today and the Nazi Party in Germany? Well, the Nazis were against big business -- they hated big business. And of course we all know that they were opposed to Jewish capitalism. They were insanely, irrationally against pollution. They were for two years mandatory voluntary service to Germany. They had a whole bunch of make-work projects to keep people working, one of which was the Autobahn. They were against cruelty and vivisection of animals, but in the radical sense of devaluing human life, they banned smoking. They were totally against that. They were for abortion and euthanasia of the undesirables, as we all know, and they were for cradle-to-grave nationalized healthcare.

This is why I have always bristled when I hear people claim conservativism gets close to Nazism. It is liberalism that's the closest you can get to Nazism and socialism. It's all bundled up under the socialist banner. There are far more similarities between Nancy Pelosi and Adolf Hitler than between these people showing up at town halls to protest a Hitler-like policy that's being heralded like a Hitler-like logo.

Rush Limbaugh, Right Wing Watch 106 Comments [10/22/2010 3:53:35 AM]
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DivB

"mandatory voluntary"

I think that the existence of this pair of words in his rant is adequate to disregard the entire thing.

10/22/2010 7:10:56 AM

Horsefeathers

"They accuse of us being Nazis, and Obama's got a health care logo that's right out of Adolf Hitler's playbook."

Why, it even has a swastika and everything. Or not. Maybe I just haven't had enough oxycontin to see it.

"Now, what are the similarities between the Democrat Party of today and the Nazi Party in Germany?"

They're both political parties.

Do I win something now?

"Well, the Nazis were against [snip random shit]"

Just because the Nazis were for or against something doesn't mean that something was good or bad, jackass. You should try evaluating positions and a case by case basis rather than just labeling everything someone/group does as "good" or "bad." Even you support or do "good" things from time to time, I would assume. Despite the fact that I pretty much despise you I don't think that everything you have or ever will do or say is "bad" just because I think you're a small minded gasbag with some serious personal issues.

"This is why I have always bristled when I hear people claim conservativism gets close to Nazism."

They're talking about that whole totalitarian regime thing you guys are shooting for.

"It is liberalism that's the closest you can get to Nazism and socialism."

You just toss around "ism" words without the slightest clue what they mean, don't you? That must be where all the other conservative jackasses get that particular habit from.

"It's all bundled up under the socialist banner. There are far more similarities between Nancy Pelosi and Adolf Hitler than between these people showing up at town halls to protest a Hitler-like policy that's being heralded like a Hitler-like logo."

You should stop talking now. Like, forever.

10/22/2010 7:16:30 AM

Zeus Almighty

Obscenely obese, pedarast drug addicts say the darndest things?

10/22/2010 7:20:25 AM

Brendan Rizzo

They accuse of us being Nazis, and Obama's got a health care logo that's right out of Adolf Hitler's playbook.

Can you provide a picture of the incriminating logo? Are there any swastikas on it? ...I thought not.

Now, what are the similarities between the Democrat Party of today and the Nazi Party in Germany? Well, the Nazis were against big business -- they hated big business. And of course we all know that they were opposed to Jewish capitalism.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the Nazis weren't against big business at all, and wanted to completely control it. The fact that many businessmen supported the Nazis while in power seems to go against your assertion. As for "Jewish capitalism" (itself an unfortunate negative stereotype) the Nazis hated the Jews because they were Jews. Even if every single Jew in existence donated all of their money to charitable causes, Hitler would still have hated them because he believed that they were inherently inferior as a race, and could never coexist with Genti-- er, I mean, "Aryans." (Hitler was not very nice.)

10/22/2010 7:40:28 AM

Brendan Rizzo

They were insanely, irrationally against pollution.

That has got to be the Equivocation of the Century. No, of the Millenium. No, of the Myriad Years, that's how stupid that accusation is. The Nazis were against what they perceived to be "inferior races" "polluting" the "pure" Aryan race. They did not give a shit about the natural environment. Where are the Nazi decrees forbidding fossil fuels from being burned, huh?

They were for two years mandatory voluntary service to Germany. They had a whole bunch of make-work projects to keep people working, one of which was the Autobahn.

Ignoring the fact that "mandatory voluntary" is a contradiction (do conservatives even know the meaning of words?), there is nothing at all equivalent to "mandatory service" in the United States. There were definitely no programs of the sort initiated since 2009.
And the notion that Hitler funded the building of the Autobahn is a myth by the way. Construction started in the '20s, long before Hitler was in power or even known.

10/22/2010 7:41:01 AM

Brendan Rizzo


They were against cruelty and vivisection of animals, but in the radical sense of devaluing human life, they banned smoking. They were totally against that.

You know why they banned smoking? Because, it was known even back in the '40s that smoking cigarettes is harmful to one's health. The reason it took so long to be stigmatized in the United States is because tobacco companies had a lobby with the government (dating back to the Colonial Era) which protected them from any accusation of wrongdoing. It wasn't until they started making truly outrageous claims (for instance, that cancer causes smoking, not the other way around) that people stopped buying their bullshit. What does any of this have to do with the Nazis' atrocities anyway?

10/22/2010 7:41:32 AM

Brendan Rizzo

DAMN double post.

10/22/2010 7:42:05 AM

Brendan Rizzo

This is why I have always bristled when I hear people claim conservativism gets close to Nazism.

So have I, to be honest, because the comparisons are so eerily similar.

It is liberalism that's the closest you can get to Nazism and socialism. It's all bundled up under the socialist banner. There are far more similarities between Nancy Pelosi and Adolf Hitler than between these people showing up at town halls to protest a Hitler-like policy that's being heralded like a Hitler-like logo.

Uh, no. Hitler hated liberals; they were among the first expelled from Germany and the ones who (foolishly) remained got sent to concentration camps. There is nothing socialist about either Nazism or liberalism by the way. The gulf between liberalism and socialism is the same as the width and depth of the Grand Canyon. (The gulf between socialism and communism is even wider, but that's not the point.)
It is impossible by definition for liberalism to be close to Nazism and socialism, because if a philosophy is close to socialism, it is not close to Nazism, and if a philosophy is close to Nazism, it is not close to socialism. The two are on opposite ends of the political spectrum. Not that liberalism is in any way similar to Nazism, mind you; to go along with our previous analogy, the gulf between liberalism and Nazism is the distance from Earth to the farthest star.
I understand that conservatism is almost as far away from the Nazis, so I'm not accusing you of being one, Mr. Limbaugh. However, I do think that the idiocy routinely displayed by the far right makes it a danger to this country.

10/22/2010 7:42:39 AM

Anon-e-moose

One fact completely destroys the fat hypocrite blubberbag Rush Limburger's BS (and that of the right-wing as a whole in the US):

We in the UK have had the National Health Service since the late 1940s. We're still here.

PROTIP: With a socialised healthcare system in the US, as with our NHS, prescription medicines are subsidised (or free for those who can't afford such). You of all people, Rush, should question your own questioning of Obama's policy. Imagine: all those lovely prescription drugs costing you less, eh? Nom. Nom. Nom.

One more thing, Rush (and anyone else who thought Bush I & Dumbya were the best thing for the US; especially those who voted for Dumbya - twice). Try this on for size:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

Kennedy. Carter. Clinton. Obama = GOOD

Nixon. Ford. Raygun. Bush I. Dumbya = BAD

You do the maths.

10/22/2010 7:52:31 AM

nazani14

Christianity has a logo that's right out of Imperial Rome's playbook for suppressing dissent.

My extended family, both Germans and German-Americans, was decimated by WWII. Yet, even I have to admit that some of Hitler's (or, more likely, Speer's) projects continue to benefit Germany.

Apparently, in order to never do anything Hitler did, you have to be a complete anarchist and live in your own filth.

10/22/2010 8:02:50 AM

Hive

Ugh, why do people still listen to this idiot?

10/22/2010 8:25:27 AM

TGRwulf

How can you pull facts out of your ass so fa-

Oh, goddamnit. It's Rush. Even quoting him usually requires an automatic godwin.

10/22/2010 8:29:37 AM

Orion

"Well, the Nazis were against big business -- they hated big business."

Which is why the SS were stylishly outfitted by Hugo Boss, carried by Volkswagen and fired Krupp brand artillery (just off the top of my head).

"They had a whole bunch of make-work projects to keep people working"

Actually no, The Nazis had full employment in Germany. Something that has only existed in the USA during wartime.

"euthanasia of the undesirables"

Which less moronic people might term: Murder

"cradle-to-grave nationalized healthcare."

Only if you were in the military or were pregnant.

10/22/2010 8:38:45 AM

Lucilius

dgel: "This is basically one gigantic godwin."

You mean this post, or Rush himself?

10/22/2010 8:42:05 AM

D Laurier

I'll take "profound ignorance of the history of the Nazi party" for 200.

The Nazi party supported Krupp, Bayer, and Porsch, in their attempts to get monopolys.
They were VERY pro-corporation (ie; pro-big business)
They recognized that pollution was bad for peopleshealth, but mostly regulated it to protect the tourist industry.
They had conscription, but so did everyone else.
They utterly indifferent to the use of animals in medical research, and lowered taxes on domestic meats.
They made abortion a capital crime.
Public Healthcare was indeed one of the few good things they continued to support.
If the nazis had banned smoking, they would have been booted out by the heer (army).

10/22/2010 8:54:16 AM

Draken

Let's play a game, Rush. If you need to use the Nazis to make your point, you lose, by default.

10/22/2010 9:04:36 AM



Wait, since when a system that works perfect in Europe since decades has anything to do with the Nazis?. Godwin anyone?

10/22/2010 9:21:34 AM

Saccharissa

Shorter Rush:

"I get angry when liberals say that conservatives are just like the Nazis. I mean, the Nazis did a bunch of good things, too, which we totally don't support!"

10/22/2010 9:42:10 AM

Xotan

This person (is he supposed to be famous?) seems so foculsed on Hitler that it's positively unhealthy - mentally. Perhaps President Obama shouldbe including special provisions in his healthcare plans for lunatic asylums to take care of such poor bewildered souls

10/22/2010 10:07:09 AM

freako104

Weren't there speakers at Tea Parties who were said to be racist and anti Semitic? Also Hitler was conservative. The Nazis opposed evolution. Not unlike the religious right. Gott Mitt Uns is something that the religious right also agree with, God with us.

10/22/2010 10:30:26 AM

Murdin

"They were insanely, irrationally against pollution."

Rush Limbaugh is a Captain Planet villain ?

10/22/2010 10:36:18 AM

GodotIsWaiting4U

WHAT LOGO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? OH, THAT ONE. SO? IT'S THE CADUCEUS OVER A CIRCLE. I DON'T SEE THE BIG DEAL. NAZI GERMANY HAD A GODDAMN EAGLE OVER A SWASTIKA. THIS IS A CADUCEUS OVER A CIRCLE. THE EMBLEM YOU PICK FOR SOMETHING REALLY ISN'T A BIG DEAL.

IT'S HARD TO BE "IRRATIONALLY" AGAINST POLLUTION. WE KNOW THAT POLLUTION IS BAD. IT'S BAD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, IT'S BAD FOR OUR HEALTH, IT'S BAD FOR EVERYTHING.

HOW CAN SERVICE BE BOTH MANDATORY AND VOLUNTARY? THAT'S A COMPLETE OXYMORON. AND SMOKING IS BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH, IN THE SENSE THAT IT CAN MAKE YOU DIE FASTER, SO HOW DOES BANNING IT COUNT AS DEVALUING HUMAN LIFE? HOW DOES NATIONALIZED HEALTHCARE DEVALUE HUMAN LIFE, FOR THAT MATTER? HOW DOES SAVING LIVES MAKE THEM WORTHLESS?

NAZISM AND SOCIALISM ARE DIFFERENT POLICIES. THEY ARE PRACTICALLY OPPOSITE ENDS OF THE SPECTRUM, ACTUALLY. IF YOU KNOW WHAT EITHER ONE ACTUALLY ENTAILED, YOU WOULD KNOW THIS.

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY I'M TYPING LIKE THIS, IT'S INTERNATIONAL CAPS LOCK DAY. http://capslockday.com/

10/22/2010 11:26:42 AM

Headache

Ahhhh Rush Limpdick.

Now also without a clue about World War II - not surprising from an American fatass lard-mountain.

10/22/2010 11:28:24 AM

Old Viking

... the Nazis were against big business

The war was financed by German children who contributed their allowances.

... mandatory voluntary

round square

10/22/2010 11:29:45 AM

Wehpudicabok

Hey, you know what makes Nazis Nazis? They rose to power by manipulating fear and hatred of everyone who wasn't "Aryan." There is no movement in America that even approaches that, other than the obvious self-proclaimed neo-Nazis.

Also, get your facts right. The Nazis were pro-capitalism. They were pro-Christianity, too. Does that mean all capitalist Christians are Nazis? Of course not. We can pick bits and pieces of each other's platforms and compare them to Hitler, but unless one of us starts calling for extermination of some group deemed "undesirable," such comparisons remain baseless and inflammatory.

10/22/2010 11:51:57 AM
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