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To illustrate, on July 7th 2005, Muslims murdered 52 victims in London, including 27 white Britons. On October 8th 2005, a massive earthquake (7.6+ on the Richter Scale) struck Kashmir and 75,000 Muslims died, catapulated through the gates of "hell and death" when the Lord Jesus Christ unlocked them.

'Allah' couldn't lift a finger to prevent the calamity.

I believe that the two events are not unconnected and that Christianity's Founder is responsible for earthquakes, Numbers 16:30-32.

alanorei, 21st Century British Nationalism 68 Comments [10/28/2010 3:30:30 AM]
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John_in_Oz

JC acting as gateman? Pics or it didn't happen.

10/29/2010 7:31:48 AM

U

I don't know.
Haiti has 85% Christian.
And OBVIOUSLY they get no serious natural disasters.
Obviously.

10/29/2010 8:57:05 AM

Panz

Odd how God can't stop earthquakes and hurricanes and other such disasters from striking his own people

10/29/2010 9:33:44 AM

GodotIsWaiting4U

Kind of a slow response on Jesus' part, though, yeah? Even better, he could have found a way to just kill the murderers and not 75,000 unrelated people, thereby both preventing the murders AND avoiding the need to send an earthquake.

Your emphasis on "white Britons" and your membership in a forum called 21st Century British Nationalism leads me to believe you are a white supremacist. How does it feel praying to a little brown Jew?

10/29/2010 12:53:16 PM

Kisare

gotta love how this baka thinks the Muslim god and the Christian god are two different entities.

10/29/2010 6:01:24 PM

buff114

And you know this how?

10/29/2010 10:30:27 PM

FMG

Or you know it was the Hindu God of earthquakes... I mean Pakistan has been pissing on India's shit since 1947, it only makes sense for the religious majority of the Hindus to respond with his earthquake powers.

10/30/2010 8:50:34 AM

Anon-e-moose

@Ouabache

"Oh my god! I can see the fnords!!!"

Are those the ones designed by Slartibartfast? (He got an award for Norway), and which Norwegian Blues* pine for?

...I'll get my coat. X3

*- This should blow your mind:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-566600/Norwegian-Blue-parrot-really-DID-exist--stiff-bereft-life-ex-parrots.html

10/30/2010 9:00:57 AM

KR

"I believe that the two events are not unconnected and that Christianity's Founder is responsible for earthquakes, Numbers 16:30-32."

Hmm, no.

10/30/2010 12:23:25 PM

Angua

Wait. "Christianity's Founder"? Huh. I'd have thought you were referring to Jesus, but Numbers 16 is about Moses praying to Yahweh to smite a group of rebels. Is Moses Christianity's founder then? Or is Yahweh? Because, they seem to be as much the founders of Christianity as they are of Judaism and Islam.

Okay, so Numbers 16. Some of the Israelites (led by Korah, Dathan, and Abiram) decide to rebel against Moses because:

"And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said unto them, Ye take too much upon you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the LORD is among them: wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the LORD?" (Num 16.3)

So, the rebels are upset because they thing that Moses and Aaron have taken too much power for themselves and that God dwells amongst all the Israelites. And they think that Moses has led them into the desert where they are going to die and don't respect him. At this point in time, after the mana and the golden calf and all that, this is kind of stupid of them. But it’s not like they are turning away from God either. It’s Moses and Aaron they are upset about. The rebels even go to worship God in the tabernacle (and Moses tells God to ignore all their offerings). Apparently Moses really doesn’t like this. So Moses and Aaron get all the real, true Israelites out of the tabernacle the rebels built, so that he can call upon God to smite the rebels.

10/30/2010 1:41:04 PM

Angua

"And Moses said, Hereby ye shall know that the LORD hath sent me to do all these works; for I have not done them of mine own mind. If these men die the common death of all men, or if they be visited after the visitation of all men; then the LORD hath not sent me. But if the LORD make a new thing, and the earth open her mouth, and swallow them up, with all that appertain unto them, and they go down quick into the pit; then ye shall understand that these men have provoked the LORD. And it came to pass, as he had made an end of speaking all these words, that the ground clave asunder that was under them: And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods. They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive into the pit, and the earth closed upon them: and they perished from among the congregation. And all Israel that were round about them fled at the cry of them: for they said, Lest the earth swallow us up also. And there came out a fire from the LORD, and consumed the two hundred and fifty men that offered incense." (Num 16.28-34)

Yeah! This has so much to do with the 75,000 people who died in Kashmir.

Actually, other than the fact that if God caused both of these deaths he would be a complete and total bastard, what does this have anything to do with the deaths in Kashmir?

I don’t think that the earth opening like a pit is an accurate description of most earthquakes, but setting that aside, God sends the earthquake because he wants them to die an unnatural death so that it’s clear that they were killed by God because they offended God. That may have been all well and fine in Moses day, but God is a bit of a slacker today, because we have this thing that explains earthquakes perfectly naturally today. It’s called plate tectonics.

10/30/2010 1:42:00 PM

Angua

Because it's annoying when people don't cite their sources:

The translation quoted was the King James Version because, although it may not be the most accurate or understandable version, it seems that it's the one most fundies prefer. Because I was to lazy to hand type out that passage from Numbers by hand, I copied and pasted it from biblegateway.com.

On a completely different note, I've just noticed this was posted on a blog called "21st Century British Nationalism."

Strange thing, I tend to have a fairly high opinion of Britain. It's probably because some of my favorite authors are British and all of the Brits I've met in real life have been incredibly nice people. Funny thing -- none of them have considered themselves "British Nationalists" -- I've only run across "British Nationalists" on the internet and most of them seem to be rather nasty and stupid. (Maybe there are intelligent and kind people who consider themselves "British Nationalists" out there. Maybe I've just come across all the stupid and nasty ones.) Funny thing that, the people who call themselves "British Nationalists" seem to be the worst possible representatives for Britain.

10/30/2010 1:48:44 PM

rw23

I did originally plan to rebut this individual's claim with facts and reason, but then I realised that nothing I could possibly say would change his warped worldview.

So, all things considered, I'll settle for "Fuck off, you ignorant hate-filled fascist bastard."

Edit: @Angua

You are quite right. The only people here in the UK who describe themselves as nationalists are those connected to the various political movements primarily descended from Oswald Moseley's fascists of the 1930s. The leaders of these modern movements (when not completely absorbed with party infighting) can be quite subtle and nuanced in stating their aims, but time and time again their words are given the lie by the behaviour of their followers, who are predominantly racist, ignorant, hateful and violent.

10/30/2010 3:00:57 PM

tmarcl

Christianity's Founder is responsible for earthquakes

Paul? Really. I don't recall too many miraculous powers being attributed to him. Certainly not weather control.

10/30/2010 8:13:42 PM

Misty

Wow. God's a dick AND A slowpoke. Why not on July 8th? Or better, why not stop the terrorists BEFORE they caused any murder?

You know... Prevention instead of murdering innocents?

Just sayin.

10/30/2010 8:41:53 PM

David F Mayer

Terrorist attacks are caused by religious fanaticism.

Earthquakes are caused by plate tectonics.

Learn the difference.

David F Mayer

10/30/2010 10:36:26 PM

LOL

ROFL BLACK PLAGUE OF LONDON


ROFLOLOLOROFL

11/18/2010 9:26:15 AM

Anon-e-moose

"'Allah' couldn't lift a finger to prevent the calamity."

Remember what happened nary a decade ago? New York. Two airliners? World Trade Centre ring any bells?

Where was your 'God' then alanorei; surely not beyond his wit to have lifted a finger to prevent the calamity on that day on 11th September. Amirite? (check one):

[ ] As any Professor of Theology will tell you, the Hebrew 'Elohim' (as Jews refer to him), your Judeo-Christian 'God' ('Jehovah', 'YHWH' or whatever) and Muslim 'Allah' are all one and the same.

[ ] 9/11 - as with 7/7 - happened. Ergo, your 'God' (and that's 'Jehovah', 'YHWH' - who is 'Allah', as said Professors of Theology will tell you) - doesn't exist.

Choose wisely, alanorei. Either way, I love the smell of annihilated arguments in the morning. Smells like... victory.


@#1222125

"Gotta love the BNP. They cant show their faces in public without getting beat up so they spew their bile on the net."

On their website (and otherwise), they go on and on about 'British jobs for British people', yet it was revealed that most of their merchandise available for sale via said website, was actually made in Honduras.

So no hypocrisy there, nosiree! [/sarcasm] And for someone who supposedly puts his own country - and it's people - before others (as by definition 'Nationalists' are supposedly wont to do; you do go on & on about certain people should go back to their countries, amirite?!), he seems to be extremely chummy with this non-Brit, eh?:



Nick Griffin, leader of the BNP, with Kyle Bristow, head of the Michigan branch of Young Americans For Freedom.

Subhumans of a feather slime together after all. But as long as they're white then that's all right. Amirite? So I guess deporting all the US Armed Forces personnel based here in the UK isn't exactly a policy priority for you and the BNP, would I be right in thinking eh, Nicky-boy?

Every breath these fascist filthbags breathe is an insult to the memory of all the good people who died in WWII to eliminate the likes of them, and their unjustifiable way of thinking.

Although she was he main basis of my more than infinite hatred of everything - and everyone - right-wing, Maggie Thatcher (*spit*) isn't the sole reason of said hatred.

At the other extreme, Scotland's SNP. Wales' Plaid Cymru. Nick Griffin, take note.

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