The Return of Eye Beams!

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In a thread regarding astrophysics, distance and star light

Here is a question you.

So a light year = the distance light travels in a year.

You mentioned the figure 11 million light years away.

So my question is how are we observing this light 11 million light years away now?

I'm not 11 million years old, i'm 20.


Later on he goes on to say...

If it takes 11 million years to travel to earth, how can i see it now? I'm only 20.

If it takes 11 million years to travel to earth then the viewer would need to be 11 million years old.


And it continues with...

I don't believe light travels at all, i've looked at various models and worked on many but none of it works. The basics of visual perception is often overlooked. When we look at something what is actually going on? The emission theory states that the light emits (not a travelling speed) from our own eyes not from the object we look at. The intromission theory states the opposite.

The emission theory is the most common sense, so i don't believe there is any speed of light. The 'Starlight Problem' has never been a problem for me and the YEC model. The earliest Church Fathers (2nd-4th century AD) who believed in emmision theory also had no problem with starlight and a young universe.

Cassiterides, Evolution Fairytale Forum 271 Comments [10/25/2010 7:04:51 AM]
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Wow. Just. Wpw.

Just think folks. This guy can vote!

10/25/2010 9:50:00 AM


Not necessarily. All it means is that the object emitting the light would have to be at least 11 million years old. Nothing in the path of that light would have to be that old.

EDIT: Wait, this person thinks that beams emit from the eyes and hit an object in order for you to see it?? WTF!

It explains why they think you'd have to be 11 million years old, anyway. Now how does the thing about light not traveling fit into this?

10/25/2010 10:04:25 AM

Table Rock

How can my father be 67 years old when I'm only 32 years old?

10/25/2010 10:05:29 AM


This guy is worse than stupid.

10/25/2010 10:08:26 AM


Homeskuled! No doubt! In general, the dumbest and most uneducated ones are found there.

If anyone is stupid enough to think they can cover every subject in school and with a pedagogic approach which will make the knowledge stick, their first task should be to take every test normally given to school children and unless aces all of them, be denied the ability to homeschool.

Homeschooling is in general, nothing but child abuse!

10/25/2010 10:14:18 AM

Jeff Weskamp

"When we look at something what is actually going on? The emission theory states that the light emits (not a travelling speed) from our own eyes not from the object we look at."

Then why can't people see in dark rooms? If our eyes emit the light that we see by, we should be able to see as well during the night as we do during the day!

Good grief, just thinking for one minute disproves the "Emission Theory!"

10/25/2010 10:20:12 AM

Doubting Thomas

What part of "started long before you were born" concept does he not understand?

How can this oak tree in my yard be over a hundred years old? We just moved in this summer, so it has to only be a few months old.

See how stupid that is?

*edit* Oh I see he believes that light travels from people's eyes to an object, then back again allowing sight... well that's got to be even stupider than the above statement, as the person who just posted before me pointed out, why can't we see in total darkness?

10/25/2010 10:21:00 AM

You, sir, are a fucking idiot.

10/25/2010 10:37:28 AM

LMAO you're so fucking stupid XD

10/25/2010 10:46:28 AM


You need to start with something simpler.

A train leaves Chicago at 44.3 MPH traveling due East. If the Engineer stops looking forward, how long will it take the train to fall off the edge of the Earth?

If a tree falls in the forest and you're under it, will anyone care?

Billy throws a rock at a window. If it always has to travel half the remaining distance before continuing, a) how come it doesn't never arrive, and b) how come a twit like you observing this from inside the room will get hit in the eye and not see the rock still in Billy's hand?

If you have 5 matches and I take one away, how many do you have left to light a fire then die in it?

10/25/2010 10:50:23 AM


You know, a lot of stuff happened before you were born, like the like from this star starting off.

10/25/2010 11:04:28 AM


Stupid has just reached a whole new level.

10/25/2010 11:06:52 AM


...and magnets. How the @#$% do they work?

10/25/2010 11:30:33 AM


The Stupid! It Burns!

If I don't know something about a topic, I actually say I don't know anything (or much) about said topic. The last thing I'd do is keep babbling on about something I don't know. There is a quote I know that holds quite true from my observations: "Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"

10/25/2010 11:38:57 AM


Homeskooled Cassiterides?

10/25/2010 11:45:49 AM

Poe, surely.

10/25/2010 11:48:03 AM

Joe Mama

When we look at something what is actually going on? The emission theory states that the light emits (not a travelling speed) from our own eyes not from the object we look at.

And mirrors are windows into a parallel universe where everything is just like it is here except backwards.

10/25/2010 11:50:32 AM


He must be joking! No one can be that stupid.

10/25/2010 11:52:11 AM

This is sort of sad. I mean this is like high school level science.

10/25/2010 12:13:48 PM


GOOD GOD YOU ARE RETARDED. The VIEWER would not have to be 11 million years old; only the thing PRODUCING the light, and even then it doesn't have to be that old, it just has to have existed 11 million years ago.

Here's a question, just to help you understand: let's say you have a meteor that broke off an asteroid a century ago. It's flying through space, and then it gets caught in Earth's gravitational pull RIGHT NOW and plummets to Earth and crushes your foot. How could this have happened? You aren't 100 years old. It happened because the meteor is OLDER THAN YOU ARE and has been traveling SINCE BEFORE YOU WERE BORN, and YOU HAPPENED TO BE IN THE WAY WHEN IT CAME DOWN. THE UNIVERSE DOES NOT REVOLVE AROUND YOU. NOT EVERYTHING IS INTIMATELY CONCERNED WITH YOUR CURRENT STATUS.

10/25/2010 12:31:03 PM


So... If I sent you a "Happy 21st Birthday" card by homing tortoise and, underestimating its speed by a factor of 10, it arrives for your 30th birthday, does that mean that you are actually 21? Or that you can't actually perceive the card?

Or, even worse, did I not even send the tortoise, but you sent it out ten years ago, it reaches me now, I attach the card, then it turns around and returns to you on your 30th birthday? Or you send it out now, it reaches me in five years, at which point I attach the (now already four years outdated) birthday card, and it again returns to you on your 30th birthday (proving that the speed of tortoise - at one atmosphere - is at least half what zoologists say it is)? (For some reason, I'm now thinking of a particular puzzle in Infocom's Enchanter, involving sending a sped-up turtle into some dangerous machinery.)

Do you also happen to believe in phlogiston? The ether? Humorism?

10/25/2010 12:37:12 PM

What'd I Do

... Carico?

ETA: MamaElephant is full of fail on that thread too.

I'm sorry, I don't care if this makes me look like "The Bad Guy", but if a person makes the claim that the Bible is inerrant, and that observable science is in some way inconsistent with itself, I will no longer respect that person's opinion on anything scientific whatsoever.

10/25/2010 12:42:02 PM


I'm calling his bluff. He's not 20, he's 5.

10/25/2010 12:44:58 PM

Old Viking

How are babby formed?

10/25/2010 12:50:36 PM

Tolpuddle Martyr

10/25/2010 12:51:50 PM

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