The Return of Eye Beams!
Pew! Pew! Pew!
Quote# 77098In a thread regarding astrophysics, distance and star light
Here is a question you.
So a light year = the distance light travels in a year.
You mentioned the figure 11 million light years away.
So my question is how are we observing this light 11 million light years away now?
I'm not 11 million years old, i'm 20.
Later on he goes on to say...
If it takes 11 million years to travel to earth, how can i see it now? I'm only 20.
If it takes 11 million years to travel to earth then the viewer would need to be 11 million years old.
And it continues with...
I don't believe light travels at all, i've looked at various models and worked on many but none of it works. The basics of visual perception is often overlooked. When we look at something what is actually going on? The emission theory states that the light emits (not a travelling speed) from our own eyes not from the object we look at. The intromission theory states the opposite.
The emission theory is the most common sense, so i don't believe there is any speed of light. The 'Starlight Problem' has never been a problem for me and the YEC model. The earliest Church Fathers (2nd-4th century AD) who believed in emmision theory also had no problem with starlight and a young universe.
Cassiterides, Evolution Fairytale Forum 243 Comments
[10/25/2010 7:04:51 AM]
Fundie Index: 425
Submitted By: Flatland
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Congratulations, you fail basic comprehension.
10/26/2010 12:00:55 AM
You know, I wouldn't necessarily label someone stupid for believing that we can see because our eyes emit some sort of beam. For example, I wouldn't call someone who lived in ancient Greece stupid for believing that.
However, this is the 21st century AD. You have no excuse for believing in any sort of mystical eyebeams.
Most children learn the basics about how light and the human eye work in elementary school. You might well be twenty, but most second graders could tell you why you're wrong. Did you spend all your time in class sitting in the corner sniffing glue? I remember going over this stuff at least as early as second grade.
10/26/2010 12:04:18 AM
The Stupid! it burns!
10/26/2010 12:14:51 AM
I'm gonna call Poe here, because that stuff on the same forum about light coming from our eyes is... historically accurate. The ancient Greeks believed it, until one of them (I forget who) pointed out that a) light from another source reflects off things and can't have come from our eyes, and b) that looking at certain things hurt because of how bright they are. Like the sun.
So, anyway, I think Cassiterides is taking the piss about resurrecting defunct theories instead of using modern scientific knowledge.
Maybe I'm too generous though.
10/26/2010 12:52:51 AM
Wow. Light and time don't work that way, kid.
10/26/2010 1:37:50 AM
I've read the whole thread and our friend Cass here has to be the dumbest fundy I've ever encountered online. And that's saying something.
10/26/2010 2:12:26 AM
You fail at basic physics, observation and comperhension kid.
10/26/2010 2:14:11 AM
10/26/2010 2:42:44 AM
How can someone really be this stupid?? Omfg
10/26/2010 3:11:09 AM
Nobody told you how fast the light goes and how much light a star produces(by the way, many are stingished by now, did we mention that?)
10/26/2010 3:12:50 AM
This guy needs his high school degree revoked and sent back to primary school.
Or was he home-schooled, with emphasis on the Bible? If so, it would explain a lot.
10/26/2010 3:20:27 AM
Are you twenty years old, so what?, the world doesn't turn around you.
10/26/2010 3:34:03 AM
Not fundie, just breathtakingly stupid.
10/26/2010 4:11:59 AM
This is one epic fail!
10/26/2010 4:16:37 AM
The Cassiterides is one of the names that used to apply to Cornwall - my stamping ground - so I really pray that this is a Poe.
BTW to calculate the speed of light and have marshmallows
10/26/2010 5:19:38 AM
10/26/2010 5:34:43 AM
Rubber chicken, take one internet for that blue touchpaper gag. I'm not the sort of person who would ever write "I lol'd," but, well, I did.
10/26/2010 5:44:18 AM
The emission theory
The intromission theory
Pfffftt! Only theories.
10/26/2010 5:47:47 AM
The fact that this guy is 20, and not 12, makes this all-the-more hilarious.
10/26/2010 6:05:04 AM
"The earliest Church Fathers (2nd-4th century AD) who believed in emmision theory also had no problem with starlight and a young universe."
You don't suppose we could have learned a thing or two in 1500+ years, do you?
10/26/2010 6:09:02 AM
The "Fundie Index" of this one is rocketing forward at the speed of... well... you know. :)
10/26/2010 6:43:55 AM
(Cassiterides had better not watch the rest of "The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya" if he knows what's good for him. The scenario's main concept will completely blow his mind!)
10/26/2010 6:59:39 AM
wow I needed a good laugh! :D I'm way too lazy so the more intelligent people can explain to you just how wrong you are
take it away anyone in or above primary school!!!
10/26/2010 7:19:39 AM
The best points have already been covered. Here's a few lesser ones:
Why can't we see the light from other people's eyes?
How do optical illusions deceive us?
How do we see rainbows if sight is our eyes 'touching' things? We send out eyebeams to touch light? But then you have the 'starlight problem' PLUS the eyebeams.
What are shadows?
10/26/2010 7:42:57 AM
the emission theory has been debunked around the year 1021. You might want to catch up, dude.
Oh, before I forget: It's not a scientific theory.
Go back to school, please.
10/26/2010 8:48:58 AM
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