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Quote# 77098

In a thread regarding astrophysics, distance and star light

Here is a question you.

So a light year = the distance light travels in a year.

You mentioned the figure 11 million light years away.

So my question is how are we observing this light 11 million light years away now?

I'm not 11 million years old, i'm 20.

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Later on he goes on to say...

If it takes 11 million years to travel to earth, how can i see it now? I'm only 20.

If it takes 11 million years to travel to earth then the viewer would need to be 11 million years old.

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And it continues with...

I don't believe light travels at all, i've looked at various models and worked on many but none of it works. The basics of visual perception is often overlooked. When we look at something what is actually going on? The emission theory states that the light emits (not a travelling speed) from our own eyes not from the object we look at. The intromission theory states the opposite.

The emission theory is the most common sense, so i don't believe there is any speed of light. The 'Starlight Problem' has never been a problem for me and the YEC model. The earliest Church Fathers (2nd-4th century AD) who believed in emmision theory also had no problem with starlight and a young universe.

Cassiterides, Evolution Fairytale Forum 260 Comments [10/25/2010 7:04:51 AM]
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Brendan Rizzo

@ Anon-e-moose:

That's it, you win an Internet. I was wondering when someone was gonna bring that up...

10/26/2010 10:18:17 AM

Think or GTFO

This is so seriously messed up. The stupid not only burns, it might drag me down into depression.

10/26/2010 10:58:05 AM

maanantai

"I don't believe light travels at all, ..."

You don't need to believe in it, you just need to turn the switch and there it is. Just like magic.

If you've paid you electricity bill, that is.

10/26/2010 11:37:23 AM

Think or GTFO

Fucking lightbulbs, how do they work?

10/26/2010 11:44:08 AM

John

Let's say a "train-hour" = the distance a train travels in an hour. Chicago is 20 train-hours from New York City by the Amtrak Lake Shore Limited. Do you have to be in NYC when the Lake Shore Limited left Chicago at 10:30 last night in order to meet it arriving in NYC at 6:30 tonight? So why would you have to be alive when the light left the star 11 million years ago in order to see the light tonight?

10/26/2010 12:14:14 PM

Yama the Space Fish

Didn't Ibn al-Haytham disprove eye beams a thousand years ago?

10/26/2010 12:14:40 PM

Navelgazer

Light emits from your eyes? Of course why didn't I think of that before!

Except...hmm

Why can't I see in the dark?

10/26/2010 12:30:14 PM

Dharmabum

What. The. Fuck.

10/26/2010 12:58:24 PM

J

I was kinda skimming this, because I was pretty sure I might have seen it before. But when I saw the sentence, "I don't beleive light travels." I realized two things; that I havn't seen this before, and that reading it will cause severe brain damage.

10/26/2010 2:13:49 PM

Epicurus

Hey everyone he's discovered free electricity... All we have to do is look intensely at a solar panel for 8 hours a day! For dramatic effect make a loud humming noise while generating your eye beams.


10/26/2010 2:26:55 PM

Brianisha

The Millions of light years away BS is from a bunch of christian fundies, aka NASA. I think light travels a whole lot faster than they say it does.

10/26/2010 4:19:58 PM

Areze

Mr. Palm! A pleasure!

Indeed, Mr. Face!

10/26/2010 4:26:35 PM

P

I guess we must see stars as a result of nocturnal emissions...

10/26/2010 5:50:49 PM

Nowonmai

I could disbelieve the Sun is a massive nuclear reaction... I'd be wrong, but I could believe it all I wanted.

10/26/2010 6:26:07 PM

Neith

I never thought I would run across someone even more fucking stupid than the moron who denied the existence of apes, but now I have. I think a normal 2-year-old would be able to grasp the simple concept of light traveling and entering the eye.

I wonder what Cassiterides believes about sound. Does he/she believe in ear beams, too?

Edit: I knew this username sounded familiar. Cassiterides believes the sun is 32 miles in diameter.

10/26/2010 7:01:09 PM

Gawd


Yes, I'm sure those guys from the year 310 had no problem with starlight and a young universie.

10/26/2010 7:23:10 PM

Dewey Cheatham

Epic. Brain. Hurt.

Epic. Fail. Cass, go to a real school where they actually teach science. PLEASE.

10/26/2010 7:45:16 PM

Evilution Teacher

@ Mr. Boston - LOL

10/26/2010 8:30:19 PM

Amadaun

Go, John! That's my train!

Heh. No, I think 'nobody ever caught an ape anyway' was stupider. But this is just about as funny.

10/26/2010 8:30:47 PM

DarkfireTaimatsu

You cannot use eyebeams nyo, only those from Planet Di Gi Charact can!

10/26/2010 8:45:26 PM

Desp

@Alcari

No he doesn't have the intellect of an 11 year old, I learned that light travels from the source to your eyes when I was 7... I understood the physics of it before I was even in double digits. He has the intellect of a 6 year old

10/26/2010 9:32:18 PM

Jack Bauer

I struggled my way through the entire thread...

What irritated me the most is the super smug (and I mean as smug as Hovind!) way in which this moron claimed, several times, to have 'debunked' the original post!

10/26/2010 11:51:14 PM

Fork

Why can't we see in the dark, then?

10/27/2010 12:31:26 AM



Anon-e-moose

@Brendan Rizzo

Thanx awfully, good sir (*Blushy-blushy*). You make a happy man feel very old (shome mishtake, shurely?!).

Way before even Mikuru in "MoHS", there was "Di Gi Charat"*, featuring Dejiko~nyo and her 'Mekka-Beams':



*- Created by the delightful mangaka (and Japan's no.1 "Harry Potter" fan) Koge-Donbo. Here's a blog featuring some of her HP fan art:

http://animeyume.com/blog/2009/09/05/koge-donbos-harry-potter-fan-art/

@P

"I guess we must see stars as a result of nocturnal emissions..."



X3

[/mucky mind]

10/27/2010 9:25:39 AM

Giveitaday

So my question is how are we observing this light 11 million light years away now?

No, you are observing light from 11 million years ago. Not that I expect you ill kno the difference.

If it takes 11 million years to travel to earth, how can i see it now? I'm only 20.

If it takes 11 million years to travel to earth then the viewer would need to be 11 million years old.


No, you wouldn't. Your inability to grasp this simple fact is proof that your question was insincere at best, and was not made in pursuit of actual knowledge.

I don't believe light travels at all

What you "believe" is completely irrelevant.

i've looked at various models and worked on many but none of it works.

And your qualifications are what? Am I supposed to believe that all of observed physics can be overturned just because you say so?

The emission theory states that the light emits (not a travelling speed) from our own eyes not from the object we look at.

You have already claimed that "light does not travel" but now you claim that it emits from our eyes. And what the hell is "not a travelling speed"? Any speed is a "traveling speed", if light does not travel then how can light be emitted?

The emission theory is the most common sense

It makes no sense, much less "common sense", and it pathetically easy to refute. Can people see in total darkness? The answer is "NO". Emission theory refuted.

so i don't believe there is any speed of light.

Once more, what you believe is irrelevant. The speed of light can and has been measured time and time and time again. Not only that but the speed of light through hundreds, if not thousands, of transparent mediums has also been measured ad nauseum. Were all of the tens or thousands of those scientists who performed these measurements lying or involved in some wide reaching cover up?

Further more, if light does not travel, how do you explain the function of things like flashlights, lightbulbs, candles, etc.? Under your claims those things simply would not, and could not possibly work.


The 'Starlight Problem' has never been a problem for me and the YEC model.

Denying the existence of an observed and measured phenomena doesn't make the problem it presents for the YEC model go away. It just show that the YEC model is based wholly on dogma and not actual evidence.

The earliest Church Fathers (2nd-4th century AD) who believed in emmision theory also had no problem with starlight and a young universe.

So? The beliefs of the 2nd-4th century church fathers are not what defines reality? hat proof do you have that these people not only believed in, but also supported your theory of magic light from the eyes that doesn't travel yet still manages to illuminate things which would require it to teavel.

10/27/2010 9:48:27 AM
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