"violent, vicious, depraved and unreasoning (where they can get away with it)"
You are talking about your own cowbrain group
"telling the truth about the child-molester "
Repeating a lie doesn't make it the truth
11/6/2010 4:45:04 AM
Percy Q. Shunn
11/6/2010 5:22:09 AM
"The original sodomites were Hamites, btw, which has non-pc racial implications as well."
So they were the ones that had their skin darkened by god as punishment? You're worried about discriminating against one group but not another?
11/6/2010 5:23:29 AM
Oh well, if a Baptist Preacher said it... then I'll have to include it with the other things Baptist Preachers say.
Like unicorns, talking donkeys, Bronze-Age wooden boats bigger than aircraft carriers, and rent-boys just lifting their luggage.
11/6/2010 5:47:51 AM
"an abhorrence to 95%+ of the population in any country"
Citation fucking needed.
11/6/2010 6:08:39 AM
Not sure how, “And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous…” implies child molestation specifically.
11/6/2010 6:34:30 AM
Gen. 19 says all the men of Sodom turned out to surround Lot's house. Is it seriously believed that the entire city was full of homosexuals?
As for "only the KJB telling the truth about the child-molester association in Genesis 18:20", here's the KJB:"And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous". Here's the NIV: "
And [Then] the Lord said, because The outcry of [against] Sodom and Gomorrah is [so] great and their sin is very [so] grievous"
I don't see a whole lot of difference ...
11/6/2010 7:15:17 AM
I agree with the 2 posters above in that there is nothing about "outcry" or "cry" of Sodom and Gomorrah that implies child molestation. Rabbinical interpretation is that "outcry" refers to either: outcry caused by violence against the innocent (Ibn Ezra) OR the cry of the oppressed begging for liberation (Ramban).
And given the trend of TV content and events in the US, it is highly doubtful that even 80%+ have a problem with homosexuals.
11/6/2010 7:21:18 AM
> their lives are as filthy as a backed-up sewer and an abhorrence to 95%+ of the population in any country.
-- Hitler, some time in 1930s.
(And, of course, it wouldn't really matter whether he was talking about Jews or homosexuals, it was all bullshit.)
That kind of colourful, not necessarily fact-based language might have worked back then, but not today. Stick to the facts, m'kay?
11/6/2010 7:32:36 AM
Alanorei strikes again, I see? Go die in a fire, please, and take everyone who posts on that website with you. We don't serve your kind here.
The website belongs to the BNP; I think Alanorei would be thrilled to be compared to his idol, Hitler.
11/6/2010 7:36:07 AM
"They are described in Genesis 19 as violent, vicious, depraved and unreasoning (where they can get away with it), with only the KJB telling the truth about the child-molester association in Genesis 18:20. The new bibles all cover up for the paedophiles.
They have not changed in 4,000 years of recorded history and as one KJB Baptist pastor in the US said some years ago, their lives are as filthy as a backed-up sewer and an abhorrence to 95%+ of the population in any country.
The original sodomites were Hamites, btw, which has non-pc racial implications as well."
I love the smell of destroyed arguments in the morning. Smells like... victory.
11/6/2010 7:45:12 AM
"The new bibles all cover up for the paedophiles."
Actually the Vatican and your churches do that.
11/6/2010 7:52:19 AM
So, when was the last time you read the bible?
11/6/2010 8:17:03 AM
The original sodomites were Hamites, btw, which has non-pc racial implications as well.
The new bibles all cover up for the paedophiles.
Folks, we've got ourselves a hat trick.
11/6/2010 9:07:10 AM
So.... How old were Lot's unmarried daughters and why is it okay to perform incest as long as you're drunk? How many women was King David banging? Next time you want to prove sexual mores with that stupid book, shove it up your ass instead.
11/6/2010 9:26:28 AM
Reading comprehension = minus 100
Genesis 19 refers to the possible rape of 2 men by the citizens of Sodom. Lot then offers his 2 virgin daughters to the crowd - so he offers his girls to them and as they were his only unmarried daughters it is likely they were under age.
The only paedophile is Lot who is "raped" by his 2 daughters whilst drunk.
11/6/2010 11:16:35 AM
Sure, as if the author Deuteronomy was stupid enough to believe that only black people are homosexuals(Uganda anybody?)
11/6/2010 11:40:23 AM
British crazies upping their game lately?
11/6/2010 11:50:28 AM
They are described in Genesis 19 as violent, vicious, depraved and unreasoning "
Religious fundies seem to fit in that description as well.
11/6/2010 12:04:35 PM
Sometimes I really wish that the Bible hadn't been rewritten in 1611 in order to mock "Queen James."
11/6/2010 12:04:43 PM
The Lot story has never made sense to me.
If Lot was such a righteous man, why did he offer to let the townspeople of Sodom gang-rape his daughters? If the townspeople were, as some claim, homosexuals, why didn’t he offer himself instead of his daughters? Wouldn’t they have preferred Lot to his daughters? If the townspeople had accepted Lot’s offer, would the angels have just stood by and let the girls be raped? Why did they wait until after the townspeople refused the girls to suddenly show that they had the ability to defend themselves all along? If Lot’s wife was turned into a pillar of salt for looking back at the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, who reported the story? How was it that Lot was so drunk he couldn’t tell he was having sex with his daughters but sober enough to perform the act? Why did a righteous man get that drunk in the first place?
11/6/2010 1:19:37 PM
That S&G yarn has nothing whatsoever to do with homosexuality. Got any other verses?
11/6/2010 1:23:04 PM
Wow, didn't expect the racism sneaking in at the end. But then, it's alanorei.
11/6/2010 1:34:36 PM
Breakerslion, John: Actually, I don't think the author was regarding the incest as "all right", not when you consider the names of the daughters' children: Moab and Ammon. As in the namesakes of two of the Hebrews' biggest enemy tribes. This was, in part, an attempt to pretty much delegitimate those two tribes, by suggesting they originated in monstrous incest.
11/6/2010 1:54:19 PM
All it needs is Hamite satellites controlling us with their mind-control geysex rays to make a trifecta!
11/6/2010 3:20:24 PM