Quote# 77490

[Biblical Scientific Foreknowledge - Observation of the Wave Function]

The second chapter of the Gospel of John describes the conversion of water into wine by Jesus at a wedding reception. John 2:9 states: "When the host of the wedding feast tasted the water, it had been made into wine." This passage implies that the drink was not wine until it had been tasted, or observed. Possibly, the drink was a superposition of the state of wine and the state of water until it was observed as wine.

Aschlafly, Conservapedia 88 Comments [11/16/2010 5:11:02 AM]
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Arnold Facepalmer

Quantum Mechanics fail. Andy's not even trying any more

11/16/2010 5:14:12 AM

Table Rock

It was water and then it was wine. It does not say it was both water and wine until it was tasted so even your limited understanding of quantum physics doesn't hold. Plus, wine and water do not look the same so it was observed before it was even tasted so it... oh screw it. It's just not worth it with this guy.

11/16/2010 5:20:54 AM


Well that's me convinced. A clear and irrefutable example of quantum theory. Suck on that, logic!

11/16/2010 5:21:23 AM


Possibly, the whole story is a pile of rubbish. Or, if I am to be charitable, it was mistranslated once upon a time (like many other things in the bible) and the stupidist of the stupid still take it literally.

11/16/2010 5:27:33 AM

Mister Spak


11/16/2010 5:34:10 AM

Still idiotic, but it's already on here.

11/16/2010 5:37:52 AM


Shut up and go sit over there next to deepak chopra.

11/16/2010 5:47:04 AM


At my next door pub the waiter does exactly the same thing, only with beer. She just presses the button and voilá: fresh tasty beer comes out of the keg in the back room.

No wait... i think it has been beer even before it has been placed in the keg.

Seriously, Assfly must be having a manic episode just about now, that much of whaaaaargarbl has been updated to conservapedia along with scheisse like this.

Also: If a tree falls in the forest and there's no-one to see (observe) it. Will it still be fallen?

Edit: i still find it scary, that there even IS such a thing as conservapedia. Some people take internet too seriously, you know.

11/16/2010 5:49:08 AM


Is it a vase, or 2 faces?

11/16/2010 5:56:05 AM

Is it a rerun? I recall the wave-particle duality one with regards to Jesus walking on water, but not this one.

11/16/2010 6:01:37 AM


supersymmetry is the science of photons. Not fucking wine. Jesus.

11/16/2010 6:02:12 AM


Come again...

11/16/2010 6:47:16 AM


You don't understand quantum mechanics.

You don't understand basic physics.

You don't understand basic chemistry.

You don't understand basic biology.

You don't understand basic mathematics.

You don't even understand basic human behavior.

You don't understand anything at all.

11/16/2010 7:18:37 AM


Schrödinger would puke.


11/16/2010 7:19:42 AM


o_O Um... no.

11/16/2010 7:20:12 AM


I'm fairly certain that Schroedinger's Cat was created to demonstrate exactly why superposition cannot be applied in this manner.

11/16/2010 7:38:12 AM


Andy is scary stupid.

11/16/2010 7:39:32 AM


...and if you squint REALLY HARD at this bit of the bible, it looks like duck!

11/16/2010 7:39:40 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Didn't we get this quote before? Andy reveals his comprehensive ignorance of quantum mechanics as always, and proves that his idea of Biblical exegesis is quibbles and hair-splitting.

11/16/2010 7:50:20 AM


Add some olive oil and balsamic vinegar and you'd have a nice word salad here.

11/16/2010 7:55:59 AM


I believe we should do Andy a favor and open up his head like a tin can so that we can observe his brain, thus causing it to change state and become real/functional rather than whatever the hell state it's in now that causes him to post this silly shit.

11/16/2010 8:01:23 AM

Rebellion Dog

He also doesn't understand the uses of literary metaphor, which is all this passage can aspire to be.

11/16/2010 8:14:40 AM


Sometimes, I really hate physicists for giving people like this crap like that.

11/16/2010 8:46:24 AM


This man makes Star Trek sound scientifically accurate.

11/16/2010 9:04:01 AM


"I'm fairly certain that Schroedinger's Cat was created to demonstrate exactly why superposition cannot be applied in this manner"

Actually, that's a bit ass backwards. Schroedinger's Cat was mainly a critique towards the Copenhagen interpretation of QM (which limits quantum phenomena such as superposition rather arbitrarily to the sub-atom scale). Schroedinger's Cat isn't a "problem" for other interpretations, such as MWI (Many Worlds).

11/16/2010 9:09:18 AM

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