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Quote# 77519

Gravity is a theory, not a proven fact.

The effects of gravity can be explained by other theories. An example would be the acceleration theory which asserts the earth is actually moving 'upward' at a constant rate of 1g (9.8m/sec^2). This produces the same effect as "gravity".

See there are different theories for the same phenomena - and none are facts, they are just theories.

Cassiterides, Evolution Fairytale Forum 241 Comments [11/17/2010 4:55:38 AM]
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Meph

Rereading this and considering this guy's past argument amount emission theory (eye beams), I'm pretty sure this guy's a Poe. He throws out a lot of names of bullshit theories, showing he's well-researched, but still these theories can have holes poked in them with simple common sense.

11/17/2010 11:41:42 AM

JohnTheAtheist

Moving upward? Shouldn't people be falling off the other side then? Maybe the whole earth is expanding at the rate of 1g. No wait that doesn't make any sense either.

11/17/2010 12:21:08 PM

Murdin

JohnTheAtheist : maybe everything is expanding in order to constantly stay scaled to the Earth's increasing diameter. Including the standard meter, the speed of light, the diameter of a proton and the orbit of Russel's teapot.

11/17/2010 12:27:56 PM

dionysus

I'd love for you to go tell the Japanese that Atomic Theory is "just a theory" and not a fact. My prediction is that they'll either pummel you or laugh at you. Either way it'll be entertaining.

11/17/2010 12:32:06 PM

Old Viking

I've never thought of it that way before. And I assure one and all that I never shall again.

11/17/2010 12:39:20 PM

freako104

I hope you are a poe. I really do.

11/17/2010 12:47:13 PM



And how does terminal velocity fit into your little "theory"?

11/17/2010 12:59:23 PM

Meph

Terminal velocity is only a factor in an environment where there is air resistance. If the earth was jumping through space, there would be no air resistance.

Plus I don't think he's concerned with the concept that acceleration = change of velocity.

11/17/2010 1:04:07 PM

Shanya Almafeta

Actually, acceleration theory is a misnomer... if the earth was moving at a constant rate, it wouldn't be accelerating (experiencing a change in velocity) at all.

11/17/2010 1:04:28 PM

AuraTwilight

So...if Earth is moving up, why aren't people on the other side of the planet falling off it, or something? This is fucking retarded, even for you guys.

11/17/2010 1:08:55 PM

Angua

I'd argue that just because there are multiple theories for how something works, that doesn't mean that all theories are equal. I'd argue that the labels of "theory" and "fact" are not mutually exclusive. I'd argue that calling something a "proven fact" is somewhat stupid, not to mention redundant.

But he's arguing against gravity. He's using the sort of "arguments" that a Flat Earther would use. I don't think it is possible to argue with these people. I am at a complete loss.

Go! Back! To! The! Eye! Beams!

I miss the eye beams. This makes the eye beams look incredibly sane and well thought-out. At the time I thought the idea of anyone believing in eye beams in the twenty-first century was painful. I never thought I'd miss the eye beams . . . but this hurts my brain even worse.

11/17/2010 1:23:14 PM

shadkat

My mind has boggled at the sheer stupidity. Is the rest of the solar system, (or galaxy or universe universe) also accelerating at the same rate and direction? Otherwise, we'd lose the sun's warmth eventually. And the stars would slowly change position. And...gah. I don't know, I'm not particularly scienc-y myself, but then again, I don't make a habit of shooting my mouth off about crackpot theories on the internet.

11/17/2010 1:26:52 PM

I read about the afterlife

Dude. That is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard.

11/17/2010 1:50:17 PM



I believe I said this in the comments on the eye-beams, but it bears repeating (and emphasis, bitch!):

You, sir, are a fucking idiot.

11/17/2010 1:59:50 PM

Muhahaha

Excellent! You are correct, the "law of gravity" is a theory in much the same way that evolution is a theory. Thus we should be saying the "law of evolution".

11/17/2010 2:19:36 PM

Night Jaguar

Tidal force

FAIL

11/17/2010 2:35:44 PM

tranz2deep

That the earth is a round object getting light on it has been proven by study of shadows.

Hell, Eratosthenes managed to deduce the rough radius of the planet doing so to establish the Stadia, the straightline radii that intersect at the center of the center of the Earth, solely from the length of shadows at the same time at two locations in Egpyt. *THIS* circa 240 BC!

You, you walking insult to the notion of a student of nature, do not even know the meaning of the word, so here goes--

*Fact* - noun, something that has been tested and proven. A truth. An item that has no deception or supposition.

Gravity has been proven, has been tested, has been observed and deduced. The world being round has been likewise proven.

Your nonesensical article, Cass, has been posted, AGAIN, on fstdt dot net. Deservedly.

By the way, your continual effort to cast doubt and say things aren't proven? It didn't work for RJ Reynolds, so just leave it be, already!

11/17/2010 2:47:29 PM

J

This guy's been here before, hasn't he? Anyway, he should just shut up, because his pseudoscientific "theories" arn't helping anybody.

11/17/2010 2:49:26 PM

Shadoboy

Backed up by evidence. Unlike all of your dribble.

11/17/2010 2:59:00 PM

Karana

Theories explain observed facts.
It has NOT been observed that the earth is constantly expanding outwards or accelerating 'upward' at any rate.
There is no 'up' in space.

Don't argue with science. It will beat you every time.

11/17/2010 3:03:52 PM

Bleck

This whole website is a troll right?
You fucking religious retards are some of the dumbest humans ever to sprout up in society. Go back to your family incest and small communities, and forget how to use the internet you dumb hill billy assholes.

You have the intelligence of a person from over 1000 years ago. You people are not correctly educated, and you're stupid dip shit catholic and religious schools are just spreading the dim witted intelligence you call smart. You people are corrupted, outdated, and waaaay behind current social expectations. You need to learn how the world really works, there is no such thing as a real god, god didn't create you, you created god, you just use him as an excuse to do the things you do, think for yourselves for once, learn on your own, you don't need an imaginary friend called god to guide you, you use your own brain.

11/17/2010 3:28:59 PM

divergence

I seem to be reading this differently from everyone else.

It sounds to me like the guy is being sarcastic, and trying to show why we DON'T give equal time in science classes to every half-baked "alternative model" someone pulls out of their ass...

11/17/2010 3:33:35 PM

WWWWolf

I have a cooler theory.

The gravity is caused by ninjas. In the dead of the night, unseen, they keep assassinating the evil daimyos who conspire to send the people afloat to the vastness of space.

...what? I said the theory was cooler. I didn't way it was any more true than yours - both are as big pile of bullshit. But hey, cooler theories are cooler.

11/17/2010 3:39:56 PM



THEORY DOES NOT MEAN GUESS YOU STUPID IGNORANT MOTHER FUCKERS!

11/17/2010 4:21:12 PM

CanadianBroad

LoL, wut?

What I truly do not understand is how these people do not see how STUPID they sound. I just sit here sometimes thinking "Poor USA, no wonder their world ranking keeps slipping".

It must be so frustrating to intelligent people to have to argue this kind of crap over and over and over again ... sigh.

11/17/2010 4:40:31 PM
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