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What could be more symbolic of the willful decline of civilization that this:

"Following San Francisco's lead, Los Angeles County and city officials are urging people, businesses and government to switch off nonessential lights for one hour next month to save energy."

By "nonessential," they don't mean lights you're not using anyway. They mean lights you don't need to perform emergency surgery. In the original "Earth Hour" in Sydney, 2.2 million people supposedly turned out the lights in homage to the Earth Goddess.

Supposedly turning off all the lights will prolong the Earth's doom by limiting the CO2 emitted in the generation of electricity. Breathing also emits CO2. Maybe instead of "Earth Hour" we should try "Earth Minute," where we save the polar bears by holding our breath.

Beyond the pointless symbolism, the implication is clear. If we want to save the planet, we need to turn out the lights on human civilization and return to the darkness for which liberals seem to long.

Van Helsing, Moonbattery 104 Comments [11/18/2010 4:56:18 AM]
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Evolutionisalie

Evolution is pure faith

Evolution cannot be observed or experimented; it is therefore not scientific but based on pure faith or imagination. Many notable academics have noted upon this.

Karl Popper: ‘‘Darwinism is not a testable scientific theory but a metaphysical research program.’’

Michael Denton [On the theory of evolution] ‘‘…as it was in Darwin’s time, a highly speculative hypothesis entirely without direct factual support and very far from that self-evident axiom some of its more ‘aggressive advocates’ would have us believe.’’

Dr. Fleishmann: ‘‘The Darwinian theory of descent has not a single fact to confirm it in the realm of nature. It is not the result of scientific research, but purely the product of imagination.’’

L. Harrison Matthews: ‘‘The theory of evolution forms… a faith on which to base our interpretation of nature.’’



11/18/2010 3:14:44 PM

Kevin Klawitter

@Evolutionisalie

And what does that have to do with the subject at hand?

11/18/2010 3:16:24 PM

Old Viking

Most of us recognize the gesture as largely symbolic, an attempt to get people to think. Van Helsing need not worry in that regard.

11/18/2010 3:58:09 PM

Felis >:3

I thought that this was Jeremy Clarkson at first, given that he's skeptical of global warming, but then I realised he exaggerates his opinions abour environmentalism tenfold for the purposes of humour and making his point clearer.

This guy, however, is serious.

11/18/2010 4:18:45 PM

Demented Yenta

@Kevin Klawitter: It really doesn't, but since he's copying and pasting it to most any thread that catches his eye, I figure he'll eventually be ejected as a spammer, much like a certain other copypasting troll whose name rhymes with "soy nooks."


11/18/2010 4:39:59 PM

Brendan Rizzo

I don't get it. I just do not get it. Why does Van Helsing want to increase his own energy bills and decrease his own lifespan by leaving on lights in rooms that he is not in? Why does acting with even a modicum of sense mean that one worships a pagan deity to these people?!

11/18/2010 4:53:00 PM

John

"Following Van Helsing's lead, Los Angeles County and city officials are urging people, businesses and government to turn on nonessential lights for one hour next month to indicate support for Al Qaeda and Saudi Arabia."

11/18/2010 5:34:30 PM

pete

The anti-environmentalism of the Reichwhiners just might be the best proof that they are batscat crazy.

11/18/2010 6:19:15 PM

Shadow Phoenix

I did do this for the Goddess, but most people did it to give themselves a little perspective.

Honestly, it's a Catch-22. If we conserve while these idiots waste, our work will be seen as their God-given right to continue wasting. If we don't conserve, everyone loses. If these idiots get banished from conscientious society, we're no better than them and it gives them more hate-on fodder.

11/18/2010 6:52:24 PM

Frogflayer

VH - not the brightest bulb

11/18/2010 7:41:06 PM

Berny

The only darkness this liberal longs for is the one that will come when we pull the plug on idiots like you.

11/18/2010 8:13:47 PM

Osiris

@Mookie Blaylock

You must be new here.

11/18/2010 8:20:07 PM

Alencon

Liberals long for darkness? Yeah, right. Seems to me it's always religious conservatives that long for a return to medieval times. You know, the Dark Ages.

11/18/2010 8:57:11 PM

Priestling

As a member of VHEMT, I'm insulted that I have to share air with filature like this.

11/18/2010 9:02:52 PM

Mycoid Mike

Dear Van Helsing, I advise you to get your wild mushrooms from an experienced mushroom-hunter; the ones you've been eating are clearly having a bad effect on you.

11/18/2010 9:03:00 PM

WMDKitty

Wait, wait, so wanting to save the planet somehow equates to "returning to darkness"?

And yet it's you assholes who would happily take us right back to the fucking dark ages....

11/18/2010 11:06:50 PM

MarshalltheIrish

Having read way too many of these kinds of spiteful rants by this shithead, I've gotta give ol' VH here some credit for trying to spin every little glob of meaningless news into some kind of grandiose sign o' the times. He always fails, but he definitely gives it a go. His rants read like a freaky cross between a Joe McCarthy senate hearing, a Nazi speech, and a KKK rally.

Seriously, this loser would assign politics to anything. The theme song from "The Monkees" would probably inspire something like this:

"This wretched, filthy little ditty by the perverted moonbat hippie group the Monkees is an affront to Western Civilization. Their revolting bike rides and antics will soon brainwash our children into homosexual acts of lunacy. We are on the brink of the turning point of the culture war. How we countermoonbats decide to act will decide the fate of humanity."


11/18/2010 11:52:10 PM

Sylvana

To be honest, turning off unnecessary electrical appliances wont reduce carbon emissions one little bit. It will just reduce the total load on the electrical grid. Power plants pretty much run at their normal capacity regardless of grid load. If the load is too high parts of the grid will fail, but overall electricity production will remain the same. With the production remaining the same, the pollution caused in the production process will remain the same as well.

That being said though, learning to live a life where less electricity is wastefully consumed will discourage plans to build new power plants which would dramatically increase the levels of pollution being produced today.

Protecting the future is a way of life, taking responsibility for your own actions, and doing everything in your power to help, all the time. Token gestures just give people an opportunity to feel good about themselves while they continue right back living their lives of excess.

Yes, I sound like a hippie, but people like van Helsing really piss me off.

11/19/2010 1:33:23 AM

Anon

>>Sylvana

To be honest, turning off unnecessary electrical appliances wont reduce carbon emissions one little bit. It will just reduce the total load on the electrical grid. Power plants pretty much run at their normal capacity regardless of grid load. <<

Not quite. The grid is constantly load-balanced, on timescales of everything from seconds to hours (although we could do a lot better with that balancing, and save maybe 10 - 20 % of energy from being lost to heat). Hydro plants and natural gas powered turbines can be shut down within minutes, while nuclear plants take a lot longer for the coolant to cool. So if everything is turned off for an hour, you will actually save something like 50 minutes worth of CO2 production. If all of the load balancing is taken up by hydro, there is simply more water behind the dam to be dispensed slowly later, when the coal plant is running a little less than it used to.

Turning things off for longer is of course better.

11/19/2010 2:51:36 AM

Mithras

OMG... anti-Christian environmentalist PANZERALARM!

11/19/2010 3:02:02 AM

Pup

All I heard there was whargarbl.

Can we just stop beating about the bush and change it to 'Retards Say the Most Retarded Things' already?

Retardedest?

11/19/2010 3:37:47 AM



FUCK YEAH!!!
Show GOD how much we love him. Pump CO2 into the atmo, dump toxic waste into the oceans, consume, consume and consume all the resources of the planet.

Its porn for raupuretards

11/19/2010 4:01:40 AM

Shadoboy

Next on Moonbattery: How using trash cans is a symbolism for satanic orgies.

11/19/2010 7:54:49 AM

Unbeliever

@ Anon:
Not quite. The grid is constantly load-balanced, on timescales of everything from seconds to hours (although we could do a lot better with that balancing, and save maybe 10 - 20 % of energy from being lost to heat). Hydro plants and natural gas powered turbines can be shut down within minutes, while nuclear plants take a lot longer for the coolant to cool. So if everything is turned off for an hour, you will actually save something like 50 minutes worth of CO2 production. If all of the load balancing is taken up by hydro, there is simply more water behind the dam to be dispensed slowly later, when the coal plant is running a little less than it used to.

Not quite :)

The real problem is precisely that - that they are load balanced. Turning the consumption of power off and then on creates a massive load on the system. The more load - the faster the components of the power grid are to be replaced (leading to increased carbon footprint in form of power switches, wires and so on). The environmental usefulness of this activity (at least on an hour scale) is questionable at best.

11/19/2010 8:54:16 AM

Anon-e-moose

@Brendan Rizzo

"I don't get it. I just do not get it. Why does Van Helsing want to increase his own energy bills and decrease his own lifespan by leaving on lights in rooms that he is not in? Why does acting with even a modicum of sense mean that one worships a pagan deity to these people?!"

Why, you'd think that Van Helsing was as rich as, say, Bill Gates, and thus literally had money to burn! However, Bill Gates' own home outside Seattle was designed to be as high-tech as possible (he could certainly afford to have it so, with his billions)- yet as energy saving as possible.

But, as I said previously, ultimately it's not our money he's wasting!

'A fool and his money are soon parted' indeed.

@WMDKitty

"Wait, wait, so wanting to save the planet somehow equates to "returning to darkness"?

And yet it's you assholes who would happily take us right back to the fucking dark ages...."

...and yet, those same arseholes want to take advantage of - and continue to use - all the benefits that modern science has brought us.

Just as in Afghanistan (in the areas not yet liberated) TV/radio/mobile phones/computers etc are banned, and women are treated worse - and have less rights - than those in Saudi Arabia. Yet, those same oppressors themselves use computers (in spreading their vile Al-Qaeda propaganda via the Net), satellite phones, vehicles, AK-47s and Stinger missiles.

In both instances, oh, the double-standards. Oh, the hypocrisy. Oh, the SHAME! But then...

Not for nothing are Right-wing Fundamentalist Christians in the US known as 'Talibangelists'.

11/19/2010 8:55:35 AM
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