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[After being informed that the red squirrel dying out and being replaced by the grey squirrel due to disease is a form of natural selection.]

The red squirrel is dying because the grey is spreading a disease. This is what happens when things mix. This has nothing to do with 'natural selection'.

The Bible says God created everything within a specific boundary and designated it an area. The greys are not native and have broken out of their indigeous habitat and are killing off the red squirrels.

I don't think you understand the term 'natural selection'.

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"[D]isease is an environmental factor. It is a form of natural selection in the same way that predation is: those who are affected do not pass on their genes, while those who avoid it (because of a behavioural, physiological, or geographical reason) do."

Only evolutionists believe disease is an environmental factor. The root of disease in the Bible is sin or faulty thinking or doing. Again this is the case where we have polar opposite beliefs on an issue.

Cassiterides, Evolution Fairytale Forum 91 Comments [11/22/2010 4:53:29 AM]
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John_in_Oz

The Bible says God created everything within a specific boundary and designated it an area.

In yet another instance of an atheist knowing your holy book better than you do, I have to pityingly tell you that it does not say that.

11/22/2010 8:26:22 AM

dionysus

The root of disease in the Bible is sin or faulty thinking or doing.

So this person denies evolution, natural selection, gravity, and now fucking germ theory? My god, he's worse than Andy Schlaffly and I didn't think that was humanly possible.

11/22/2010 8:33:11 AM

Anon-e-moose

"The Bible says God created everything within a specific boundary and designated it an area. The greys are not native and have broken out of their indigeous habitat and are killing off the red squirrels.

I don't think you understand the term 'natural selection'."

"Only evolutionists believe disease is an environmental factor. The root of disease in the Bible is sin or faulty thinking or doing. Again this is the case where we have polar opposite beliefs on an issue."



"Ouran High School Host Club"'s (l-r:) Kyoya, Haruhi, Tamaki, Hikaru (Or is it Kaoru?!) Hitachiin, Honey-sempai, and Kaoru (or is it Hikaru?!) Hitachiin would rather commit seppuku than try to figure out Cas-shite-rides' 'logic'.

11/22/2010 8:38:09 AM

breakerslion

"And I said, I don't care if they lay me off either, because I told, I told Bill that if they move my desk one more time, then, then I'm, I'm quitting, I'm going to quit. And, and I told Don too, because they've moved my desk four times already this year, and I used to be over by the window, and I could see the squirrels, and two of them were married, but then, they switched ... from the Swingline to the Boston stapler, but I kept my Swingline stapler because it didn't bind up as much, and I kept the staples for the Swingline stapler and it's not okay because if they take my stapler then I'll set the building on fire... " - Milton Waddams, Office Space

Now that that's out of my system, care to explain Dutch Elm Disease, you silly idiot?

11/22/2010 8:53:21 AM

Doubting Thomas

Sorry, I just can't take anything Cassiterides says seriously after he exposed his belief in eye beams. If he really doesn't believe in germ theory, evolution, physics, travel of light, gravity, or any other valid scientific theories, why is he here on a computer instead of living in a cave somewhere?

11/22/2010 9:07:42 AM

Doctor Whom

I really think that our friend Tin Islands (and you don't believe me, just Google "Cassiterides") is the ruler of the Poe people.

11/22/2010 9:09:42 AM

physalis17

Cassi isn't a poe. I've read through the topic. The flat out ignorance is incredible. This person thinks that disease is not natural along with a few other things. One guy seriously asked if she considers death, predation, and trees natural. She responded by saying you are attacking my beliefs.

11/22/2010 9:23:38 AM



This isn't the legendary Carico under a new nym, is it?

11/22/2010 9:28:19 AM

shadkat

This makes no--Oh. Cassiterides. Never mind, this makes as much sense as it usually does. Which is to say none, still.

You know, I keep hoping Cass is a really dedicated troll and/or poe, but I keep having my doubts...

11/22/2010 9:40:26 AM

GodotIsWaiting4U

I don't think YOU understand natural selection.

Natural selection is an "is", not an "ought". It happens, but it isn't nice, and it's in any individual species best interests to make sure that it is favored by natural selection. In some cases, this means changing the rules of natural selection (which is what humans have done, and done very well). The grey squirrels are dominating the red squirrels because the environment favors the greys and not the reds, but if another species interferes and starts forcing the greys out and NOT the reds, the reds will flourish again, simply because they're there and the greys aren't. Natural selection is basically just "what survives survives".

Disease is tied to germs, not sin. There are things you can do to prevent germs from getting to you and fucking you over, but that doesn't mean that getting sick means you are somehow evil; you were just unfortunate.

11/22/2010 9:55:37 AM

GodotIsWaiting4U

I don't think YOU understand natural selection.

Natural selection is an "is", not an "ought". It happens, but it isn't nice, and it's in any individual species best interests to make sure that it is favored by natural selection. In some cases, this means changing the rules of natural selection (which is what humans have done, and done very well). The grey squirrels are dominating the red squirrels because the environment favors the greys and not the reds, but if another species interferes and starts forcing the greys out and NOT the reds, the reds will flourish again, simply because they're there and the greys aren't. Natural selection is basically just "what survives survives".

Disease is tied to germs, not sin. There are things you can do to prevent germs from getting to you and fucking you over, but that doesn't mean that getting sick means you are somehow evil; you were just unfortunate.

11/22/2010 9:57:00 AM

Leliel

Actually, I think we should give Cass a chance.

He does, after all, have a brain similar to that of the land squirrel, he knows how they think...

11/22/2010 10:11:52 AM

shykid

Cassite rides what? The short bus?

11/22/2010 10:20:06 AM

moose

"The root of disease in the Bible is sin or faulty thinking or doing"

Well, at least Cassiterides is consistent with what the babble says. In John 5:1-14 or so...jeebus heals a man and tells him if he sins he will get worse. That was typical of the theory of disease back then. You got sick because you sinned.

But it calls to question: If the gray squirrels are spreading the disease....that is a disease the grey squirrels got for being sinful. So....why are the red squirrels getting sick? From the disease of the grey squirrels? That would be the germ theory of disease. OR....perhaps the grey squirrels are tempting the red squirrels to live a life of squirrel sin.......

I would sure like to ask Casse about that one.....

11/22/2010 10:26:50 AM

DinosaurRidinJeebus

"Only evolutionists believe disease is an environmental factor. The root of disease in the Bible is sin or faulty thinking or doing. Again this is the case where we have polar opposite beliefs on an issue."


Correct. Except only our side has evidence to support our claims. You, on the other hand, continuously try to cite a fiction book to prove your points.

11/22/2010 10:36:16 AM



@Murak

Gluttony, lust, wrath and greed at the very least.



Red squirrels... sinful little bastards.

11/22/2010 11:20:15 AM

Sisyphus

So red squirrels are sinners? o_O

11/22/2010 11:28:36 AM

DevilsChaplain

I'm surprised no one picked up the subtle racism in this quote.

"The Bible says God created everything within a specific boundary and designated it an area. The greys are not native and have broken out of their indigeous habitat and are killing off the red squirrels."

Yes, we're dealing with squirrels here, but compare that with the language used by Judge Leon M. Bazile when he upheld the ban on interracial marriage in Virginia:

"Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix."

In essence, every creature (human and non-human) should stay "where God placed them", and God never intended for any creatures to mix.

11/22/2010 11:39:49 AM



Yes disease is a sin... so i take it when you get really sick you just sit and pray and don't rely on these false 'scientists' to cure you?

11/22/2010 11:39:59 AM

DevilsChaplain

Oh actually Poster #1228684 and Olivia picked up on the racist part of the post. Good show.

11/22/2010 11:44:16 AM

W

Dirty sinning red squirrels

11/22/2010 12:11:59 PM



I'm waiting for Truthseeker to come and tell us Cassiterides doesn't believe sin causes disease in squirrels, merely that it is an alternative and equal hypothesis.

11/22/2010 12:14:57 PM

misshani

Someone on the forum actually did ask him what sin the squirrels were committing. He got evasive, but I think the answer was basically "there was no disease until the fall of man".

So the diseases between squirrels is the result of human sin.

I'm surprised no one then mentioned that God has bad aim. If he's so all-knowing and all-powerful, surely coming up with a way to smite us that doesn't harm the poor squirrels should be easy for him. But even the Bible itself never depicted God even attempting to be that skillful, clever, or just.

11/22/2010 12:21:13 PM

SleepNeed

So the squirrels I've seen running around are sinners? Okay...

11/22/2010 12:40:46 PM

aaa

One day, you will end up killing yourself with this shit. I will find it somewhat amusing.

11/22/2010 12:43:29 PM
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