Quote# 77583

In the real world, being openly gay in the military can, and will, result in some of these folks getting their throats slit while on night ops by some real crazy military types. If you’re that bent on pushing your lifestyle choice in everybody’s face, the military isn’t the place to do it. But, go ahead and reap the results. You can’t complain when you’re dead.

junkmaninohio, The Daily Caller 62 Comments [11/23/2010 4:57:50 AM]
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Giardano Bruno

Oh plus FFS Israel does not ban gay people form the military.

And they really know what they are doing

11/23/2010 10:10:38 AM

So being gay in military is wrong but being a crazy military type is A-Ok?

11/23/2010 11:42:51 AM

Think or GTFO

You mean the same way we straights are pushing our way of life on everyone? By not doing anything else than just... existing?

11/23/2010 12:02:23 PM


"real crazy military types"

That's a subset filing term on the F.B.I. criminal files. Cheneys Blackwater recruits some of their people from it under the "Bezerker Requisite Program"

Shhhh, Cheney thinks it's a secret, like his love of other peoples suffering

11/23/2010 12:26:44 PM

The Lazy One

Huh. Because of my paranoid personality disorder I'm not eligible to serve in the military, apparently because I have the potential to go berzerker, but crazy bastards who'd kill people for being gay are? Something's whack there, and while an army of psychopaths might be extremely alarming to the enemy, I kind of doubt that it would be particularly effective.

11/23/2010 12:28:08 PM


Translation: If you're gay, we will kill you.

Great way to treat your brothers-in-arms, that.

11/23/2010 12:43:50 PM

It never gets old when people justify oppression by claiming it keeps the victim from being bullied/assaulted/murdered.

11/23/2010 1:04:50 PM

Tolpuddle Martyr

Yes, because you'd want to go through the special kind of hell that special forces dudes go through to qualify just to spend the rest of your life cooling your heels in a military prison. Idiot!

11/23/2010 1:19:43 PM


If you’re that bent on pushing your lifestyle choice in everybody’s face, the military isn’t the place to do it.

Haha, and all that invading other countries and setting up governments stuff is what, exactly?

11/23/2010 2:13:10 PM


I thought the bad stereotype of half the army being homicidal maniacs died not long after Vietnam. But then coming the people who still think D&D is a satanic ritual and in all other ways seem to still think this is 1950, I should have expected this.

11/23/2010 2:31:32 PM


So you'd kill a soldier who is gay instead of having another soldier? And you say they throw their sexuality in others faces? You'd be court martialed and chances are many of your fellow soldiers will not take your back.

11/23/2010 2:42:53 PM

Old Viking

When I was in, everybody's lifestyle choice was Keep Your Mouth Shut and Do What You're Told.

11/23/2010 3:02:21 PM

Lifestyle choice?

Can you prove it's a choice? If so, let's hear your proof.

If not, I call you out for the liar that you are.

I note your seeming approval of murder. Is this a normal christian trait, or should I be asking you: "Where is Abel, thy brother?" Or are you capable of giving an answer to such a question?

11/23/2010 4:07:01 PM


"You can’t complain when you’re dead."

No, but your estate sure as hell can.

(Note to Brits: In America, "estate" refers to all the property, collectively, of a deceased person, and to the executors of said property. It does not carry the implication of a run-down building, like it does in Britain.)

11/23/2010 4:35:02 PM


"I'm not prejudiced, I just think they shouldn't do it because they'll be victims of prejudice!!"

Not convincing anybody here, Junkman.

11/23/2010 5:06:33 PM


Because murder of fellow comrades is okay and should be tolerated in the military.

11/23/2010 8:14:40 PM

TB Tabby

Yes, reap the results...those results will be martyrdom and another way to portray your site as the hateful, bigoted monsters that they are.

11/23/2010 9:40:21 PM


Irony, you are strong today

11/23/2010 10:53:12 PM


"result in some of these folks getting their throats slit while on night ops by some real crazy military types"

And those "real crazy military types" would then be quite rightfully brought up on murder charges. The system works.

Besides, most of our soldiers really don't care one way or the other about their fellow soldiers' orientation. It's simply not a big deal.

11/23/2010 11:22:36 PM


Okay, assuming you're right and this will happen to open gays, the guy who chooses to be in the army is probably qualified to judge whether there are psychos in his unit he should be in fear of his life from, and submit a complaint / conceal shit accordingly.

A rule that takes this decision out of his hands by saying he can be thrown out for allowing it to be discovered, even inadvertently, does not protect him in the least. If our psych reviews are that bad, we can probably afford to leave sane people's coping techniques to their own discretion. It doesn't say anything good about the institutional judgment of the military if it's full of nutjobs instead of professionals.

I don't have any personal primary sources on the matter, but I really, really doubt even that one premise has any foundation, let alone the rest of the argument.

11/23/2010 11:56:00 PM


The man who helped end world war 2 with a victory for the allies was Alan Turing. Well known homosexual and computer pioneer. If we just tortured him (like we ended up doing anyways) we would have spent years more fighting the Germans or worse, we may have even lost.

11/24/2010 1:34:28 AM

Ooh, this paranoia with batshit insanity sure is delicious!

11/24/2010 3:35:20 AM

Ok, and being filthy rich in Bronx can get the same result and nobody is in favour of limiting property. Your point?

11/24/2010 3:49:47 AM


Passive-aggressive much?

11/24/2010 5:36:51 AM


> getting their throats slit while on night ops by some real crazy military types. ... But, go ahead and reap the results. You can’t complain when you’re dead.

Tacit assumption that no one gives shit about "real crazy military types" stabbing the people on their own side.

If shooting your own guys is supposed to improve morale, it sure shouldn't matter who the hell gets shot.

In WW2, Soviet Union used to have a second line of soldiers whose job was to shoot the guys fleeing from the front line. I gather the troops' morale wasn't particularly good.

And the Soviets had conscription. US has a career army. Do you often think of signing up for jobs where you get the choice of being killed by the competitors, your boss, or some random loon who worked with you? Thought so.

11/24/2010 6:58:21 AM

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