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(in response to the U.S. Religious Knowledge Survey which demonstrates Atheists/Agnostics correctly answered more religious questions than those of religious belief)

Because most Atheists are closet-Christians and most evolutionists closet-creationists. The only reason they pretend/say they are Atheists is fear (i.e of being mocked or ridiculed). Most scientists actually embrace creation or intelligent design ideas but are too scared to speak out in fear of losing their jobs.

Cassiterides, Evolution Fairytale Forum 92 Comments [11/25/2010 5:56:30 AM]
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nutbunny

(in response to the U.S. Religious Knowledge Survey which demonstrates Atheists/Agnostics correctly answered more religious questions than those of religious belief)

And that is why we are atheist. We know better

11/25/2010 5:58:59 AM

nintendofreakgcn

"Most scientists actually embrace creation or intelligent design ideas but are too scared to speak out in fear of losing their jobs."

That's funny, I don't remember mind-reading being one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit.

11/25/2010 6:00:21 AM

Anon

In a certain, twisted way, he has a very slight point. But - as usual for a Fundie - he fails spectacularly.

Atheists and Agnostics are much better informed about religion and religious texts. Thats quite a fact. I think this is connected with that Atheists/Agnostics are usually people who like to think deeply, think critically, and are concerned deeply about the world and want to understand it.

The normal faithful, on the other hand, usually is somebody who follows religion "because one is supposed to do so. Everybody does it, so it must be true". Mostly out of sheer conformism, without giving any deeper thought.

Speaking of myself, I studied a lot of religious texts, because I am really interested in the Truth; and a lot of people told me that Religion = Truth. So I gave it a try. But I also studied a lot of other works (including physics, biology, philosophy etc.) The more I read, religion made less and less sense, but science and reason made more and more sense. My conclusion out of this experience is clear: Religion = Madness, Reason = Sanity.

The president of the American Atheists once remarked: "Yes, I gave my daughter a bible. Thats how you make Atheists."

11/25/2010 6:09:24 AM

D Laurier

And most negros are secretly white, and just scared of being punished...

riiiggghhhttttt..........

11/25/2010 6:36:14 AM

Jack Bauer

Most scientists actually embrace creation or intelligent design ideas but are too scared to speak out in fear of losing their jobs.

Does not this piece of arse extracted lunacy imply that more senior scientists (i.e. the bosses) do not embrace creationism or ID?

At some earlier stage, the current senior scientists were junior. Were they, at that time, supporters of creationism and ID and afraid to speak out against the earlier generation of senior scientists?

....and so on and so forth...


11/25/2010 6:39:05 AM

Swede

Nobody is going to mock you in a survey, as the answers are confidential.

11/25/2010 6:41:03 AM

SaneChick

Right... People lie and say they're atheists to prevent mocking...

*bangs head against wall*

11/25/2010 6:47:42 AM

JSS

But it's absurd to believe for one second the crackpot theory that many overly homophobic men could in fact have some homosexual feelings, right Cassiterides?

11/25/2010 6:49:03 AM

Percy Q. Shunn

Christian Knowledge Survey said...

FAIL

11/25/2010 6:54:55 AM

Doctor Whom

The next sentence:

Some people i know at my university when they are in public make typical atheist claims, but in person when things are quite and i speak to them about intelligent design or how they got here they start to see the evidence that we were designed and not just some accident from a primordial soup.

This confirms my suspicion that Tin Islands is a Poe.

11/25/2010 6:56:43 AM

shadkat

Yes, its my fear that keeps me in my state of belief. My fear that this invisible guy in the sky is going to one day--Oh. Wait, that's you guys.

11/25/2010 7:20:53 AM

aaa

I really like it when people say lies that are this blatant. You couldn't be wronger even if you tried.

11/25/2010 7:23:27 AM

David B.

"Because most Atheists are closet-Christians and most evolutionists closet-creationists."

That makes no sense, even if atheists and evolutionists were closet Christians/creationists, how did they then score better that openly religious people?

Are you saying all the clever Christians pretend to be atheists and it's only the ignorant ones who are dumb enough to admit it openly, or that those people who actually claim to be Christians and creationists actually closet atheists/evolutionists so didn't know the answers?

Either way, it sounds like you're struggling to admit something there, Cass.

"Most scientists actually embrace creation or intelligent design ideas but are too scared to speak out in fear of losing their jobs."

So why don't they do so once they get tenure?

11/25/2010 7:35:05 AM

Horsefeathers

"(in response to the U.S. Religious Knowledge Survey which demonstrates Atheists/Agnostics correctly answered more religious questions than those of religious belief)"

I find this extremely amusing. I also think it's quite telling that the more you know about various religions, the less likely you are to follow any of them.

"Because most Atheists are closet-Christians and most evolutionists closet-creationists."

That's some twisted "logic" if I've ever seen any.

"The only reason they pretend/say they are Atheists is fear (i.e of being mocked or ridiculed)."

Excuse me? Yeah, nobody mocks or ridicules atheists. It's just those poor Christians who get belittled, discriminated against and generally have to avoid any sort of conversation where religion comes up to avoid people acting like you have the plague when you tell them what you think.

"Most scientists actually embrace creation or intelligent design ideas but are too scared to speak out in fear of losing their jobs."

Scientists don't get fired for having unpopular views. They get fired when they falsify their test results or outright make shit up. Science is not some sort of club where they revoke your membership if you don't agree with the rest of the group. Most scientific breakthroughs are made when someone thinks that the rest of the scientific community doesn't know what the hell they're talking about and decides to follow a different line of reasoning.

11/25/2010 7:49:23 AM

Justanotheratheist

Knowing anything about religion should be enough to turn any sane person into an agnostic at the very least. Religious belief is founded on ignorance and the absolute unwillingness to see it for what it is - unadulterad bullshit.

11/25/2010 7:55:58 AM

Mortok

I wish all Christians were closet-Christians.

11/25/2010 7:56:07 AM

Boy Wonder

I would venture to say that it's because we have no emotional or sentimental connection to religion and this allows us to approach it in a rational and academic way which is more conducive to collecting knowledge.

The other part of your claim, that we're all claiming to be non-religious and evolutionists for fear of retribution is ridiculous. Even when speaking of the lives of others, you manage to fold the state of their belief into your silly notion that evolution has somehow become some sort of strict and cruel social law.

11/25/2010 8:26:46 AM

TGRwulf

Just face it. We ARE atheists and agnostics BECAUSE we know more about your fairytales then you do.

11/25/2010 8:38:56 AM



Cassiterides strikes again!

11/25/2010 8:42:25 AM

Mudak

I think it's safe to say that the most scientists embrace creationism the same way most people embrace the voluntary ingestion of brake fluid.

11/25/2010 8:42:30 AM

WMDKitty

Or, more likely, we bothered to read our respective religious texts when we DID believe, and found it to be a bunch of bullshit. Then we left.

11/25/2010 8:44:31 AM

Brain_In_A_Jar

If that were true, which it isn't, it would only explain if we were your equals in religious knowledge. It wouldn't explain that we're actually your superiors, according to the results.

11/25/2010 8:48:18 AM

Xotan

It's Cassi again.

What research have you done, dear, to support your contention?

11/25/2010 9:30:29 AM

Xotan

@ Jack Bauer

It is no wonder that the polite word for 'arse' ('fundament') comes from the same root as 'fundamentalist'.

11/25/2010 9:35:42 AM

shykid

In a word, no.

11/25/2010 9:42:04 AM
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