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"To say that homosexuality is an alternative form of sexuality is like saying that bulimia is an alternative form of eating or drunkenness is an alternative form of drinking. It is simple not true."

Rev. Bryan Guinness, Peoples Montreal 56 Comments [11/26/2010 2:09:43 PM]
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Mr. Nnamdi

Wait... So getting drunk isnt a proper way of consuming alcohol? What, do you drink that 40 of Jack 'Just For The Taste?

11/26/2010 2:16:32 PM

Brendan Rizzo

To say that religion is an alternative form of learning about the world is like saying that bulimia is an alternative form of eating or drunkenness is an alternative form of drinking. It is simply not true.


11/26/2010 2:21:57 PM

Well, bulimia IS an alternative for of eating and getting drunk IS an alternative form of drinking.

11/26/2010 2:25:59 PM


You should have used anorexia and total fasting, good reverend.
What is it to you, anyway? If you don't like homosexuality, then don't be gay, okay?
What other people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms have no impact on your life, whatsoever!

11/26/2010 2:32:10 PM

Pule Thamex

Indeed, homosexuality is not an alternative in that there is not a choice to be had between two or more types of sexuality, unless your bisexual, it is just a sexual drive that you either possess or you don't. Now, if your talking choices with alternatives, you could, for instance, live your life as a normal, decent human, without recourse to delusional fantasy. Alternatively, you could choose a fundamental cult or religion as your life guide and be fantasy driven to your grave, after having lived a life of utter derangement.

Ironically, homosexuality is uppermost in the minds of fundamental cultists and many Christians, to the point of practically dominating their lives. To believe in Jesus is to be fixated with the sexual activities of homosexuals. Fundamental cultism's and Christianity's obsession with homosexuals, apart from being a major source of uproarious humour, leads one to believe that, in fact, Jesus Himself was a closet gay.

11/26/2010 2:46:34 PM


It's NOT an alternate sexuality, since you CAN'T CHOOSE your sexuality... T_T

@Mr. Nnamdi

11/26/2010 2:55:41 PM


Why do fundies always fail so badly with analogies? Bulimia is specifically a disorder where you regurgitate your food and thus cannot be considered a form of eating as it's doing the exact freaking opposite. And drunkenness is a consequence of drinking not a form of drinking. Meanwhile, homosexuality is a type of sexual attraction and thus counts as an alternate sexuality.

11/26/2010 3:20:27 PM


The fundies get sillier all the time. And that's no alternative. Pure fact.

11/26/2010 3:34:53 PM


I see the link is offering the old canard that the men of Sodom were all gay. What were all the women? And how did the city maintain a population?

What do Jeremiah and Jesus say about the sin of Sodom???? They don't mention sex. So the tranlation in the Montreal link is biased to suit a particular preconception.

BTW, as others have pointed out, there is no question of an alternative here for a gay man or woman. An alternative implies a choice. So when did you choose to be heterosexual? Or can you be honest and say that is just the way you developed with no question of choice? It's the same for a gay - no choice.

Or are you going to add lying to your other sin of tampering with scripture for your own bigoted ends? I don't think God cares much for lying bigots.

So Bryan, you have tampered with Holy Writ. What does the last couple of verses of Revelation say about those who alter scripture? Don't know? Go read it. But take it from me, you are already damned. See you in the lake of fire.

11/26/2010 3:36:44 PM


wow... this bozo was my husband's Sunday school teacher around 10 years ago. I can't believe he's preaching that kind of BS downtown of our otherwise liberal, tolerant, gay-friendly city. I wonder if he was saying things like that back in the days... at least he did not influence my husband, who is still a christian, but not of the fundie variety, (or else he wouldn't be my husband :p )

11/26/2010 3:46:38 PM

"I see the link is offering the old canard that the men of Sodom were all gay. What were all the women? And how did the city maintain a population?"

Apparently it was such a fabulous city that people would move in at a sufficient rate to compensate for people dying of old age.

Also Rev. Guinness has the name of a beer. His argument is invalid.

11/26/2010 3:49:13 PM


Pule Thamex for the win.

11/26/2010 3:49:35 PM


Also, in the sermon, he says:

"If there is ever any question as to how God feels about homosexuality, this chapter should put all questions to rest. Any nation or city or village that permits or encourages homosexuality comes under God’s judgment."

Then WTF is Rev. Guinness doing in a city like Montreal, who is world-renowned for its gay village, yearly Pride parade, and for hosting the first Outgames? Bryan, move to Topeka Kansas already!

11/26/2010 3:52:19 PM


@Pule Thamex
Don't know if Jesus was a closet gay, or doing Mary Magdalene, or going both ways... but I sure like to think that many fundies are closet homosexuals, and that it's the reason why they focus on homosexuality so much.

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11/26/2010 4:02:25 PM


I kinda dig the idea of Bisexual Jesus, though.

The Bible sez John was Jesus "Beloved Disiple".

The ChristoGnostics say Mary Magdalene was Jesus' significant other.

Thus, Jesus was a polyamourous bisexual, my kinda guy!

Concerning Montreal on GBLTs....VIVA L'MONTREAL!

11/26/2010 4:33:29 PM


I agree with his last statement. It is simple, but not true.

11/26/2010 4:42:31 PM


@ Amanda
I think this is a typo and he meant simply, judging by his homophobic sermons that can be found on the website.

11/26/2010 4:45:39 PM


Except that bulimia and drunkenness actually are harmful...

11/26/2010 4:46:14 PM


@Pule Thamex

I don't think that Jebus was in the closet. He hung out with whores and never got laid. He lived with 12 guys who he "loved above all others". He wore a dress and sandals. And? It seems like all his pictures depict him gazing lovingly at some guy.

It seems to me that he was "out".

11/26/2010 5:01:27 PM


Except that homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone. Bulimia can be very deadly.

11/26/2010 5:11:33 PM


You're right; bulimics can be cured.

11/26/2010 5:38:39 PM


Lol at the dumb. I'm currently receiving treatment for bulimia and I can say I'd much rather be homosexual (assuming bigots like you were a minority) than have a REAL mental disorder. Why? Bulimia can harm and/or kill me; "the ghey" can't. Idiot.

11/26/2010 6:29:02 PM


I'd ask what kind of drugs he's on to say something so stupid, but that would be an insult to most drug users.

11/26/2010 6:43:40 PM

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