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[Richard] Dawkins’ proselytizing ways remind me of my pimply youthful days at boarding school where those into smoking cigarettes and boozing (worse was yet to come) seemed to be really keen to get others to follow their destructive and illicit behaviour. Why did they try to coerce their fellow students into doing such things? Was it ‘safety in numbers’, that they felt a little guilty for their behaviour and would feel more secure if they could get more to join in their little rebellion?

Professor Dawkins’ obsessive campaign to try to convince others to be atheists reminds me of those days. Perhaps it is not that Dawkins really believes that there is no Creator-God, but that he wishes there were not and if he could just convince enough others to agree with him, then he will feel more secure. Has he confused his wishful thinking for reality?

Don Batten, Creation Ministries International 55 Comments [12/2/2010 8:11:13 AM]
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Perhaps it is not that fundies really believe that there is a Creator-God, but that they wish there were and if they could just convince enough others to agree with them, then they will feel more secure. Have they confused their wishful thinking for reality?

Fix'd.

12/2/2010 8:20:37 AM

Brendan Rizzo

I would say, "what a shiny mirror you've got there," but this argument can be used to argue for or against any statement. In other words, it is completely meaningless.

12/2/2010 8:22:35 AM

Jezebel's Evil Sister

I'm getting sick and tired of all those hordes of atheists who show up at my door every Sunday morning, trying to hand me blank pamphlets.

12/2/2010 8:24:06 AM

Papabear

"[Richard] Dawkins’ proselytizing ways remind me of my pimply youthful days at boarding school where those into smoking cigarettes and boozing (worse was yet to come) seemed to be really keen to get others to follow their destructive and illicit behaviour."

Or those who had "found God" seemed really keen to get others to follow their destructive delusion.

"Why did they try to coerce their fellow students into doing such things? Was it ‘safety in numbers’, that they felt a little guilty for their behaviour and would feel more secure if they could get more to join in their little rebellion?"

Yup, proclaiming insane beliefs always feels better if one is doing it with a group of equally insane persons.

"Professor Dawkins’ obsessive campaign to try to convince others to be atheists reminds me of those days. Perhaps it is not that Dawkins really believes that there is no Creator-God, but that he wishes there were not and if he could just convince enough others to agree with him, then he will feel more secure. Has he confused his wishful thinking for reality?"

Dawkins claims are supported by evidence and logic, but theists have indeed confused wishful thinking for reality.

Did I miss a memo? Is it opposite day?



12/2/2010 8:32:38 AM

Doctor Whom

Why did they try to coerce their fellow students into doing such things?

Fundy Word Redefinition Project:

coerce, v.t. to urge; to suggest; to recommend

Has he confused his wishful thinking for reality?


12/2/2010 8:38:27 AM

Pule Thamex

Hi Don, it's good to see people questioning the motives and ideologies of others. Don, do you sometimes feel as though you were pointlessly spinning bullshit that only those who are already gullible morons are going to pay any attention to? Do you sometimes feel that you're wasting your one and only comparatively short life in delusional reveries of a repressive nature and day-dreaming of immortal zombie beings? Don, are you sick and tired of kowtowing to an invisible cloudster? Then all you have to do is stop talking to the ceiling and to gullible morons, drag yourself out of the pit of lies and the hideous mire of religious trickery, and step, a free man at last, into the nourishing light of reality.

All the best Don, I hope you succeed.

Sincerely, Pule.

12/2/2010 9:13:20 AM

Aethernaut

You haven't actually read any Dawkins, have you Don?

12/2/2010 9:24:31 AM

Xotan

Your implication that Dawkins is up to something illicit could leave you open to proceedings.

Dawkins is measured in his speech and manner. If anyone seems obsessive about something it Don Batten. At least Dawkins hasn't confused reality for wishful thinking, like some...

12/2/2010 9:41:42 AM

Nicole

That's right, Don, when all else fails just tell yourself that the problem is that your opponents are really just insecure. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Here, Don, your cluelessness has earned yourself your very own Privilege Denying Dude:


12/2/2010 10:04:03 AM

Doubting Thomas

Oh, you mean like how Christians always try to get everyone else to believe what they believe? You know, for a little communal reinforcement?

And why is it so important to Christians to make themselves believe that atheists really do believe in their god? Is their faith so shaky that they need communal reinforcement even from people who don't share their beliefs?

12/2/2010 10:05:25 AM

TGRwulf

WARNING: Irony meter critical. Overload imminent.

12/2/2010 10:09:10 AM



Has he confused his wishful thinking for reality?

I have the same thoughts regarding you creationist retards all the time.

12/2/2010 10:25:10 AM

C_V


awww, poor Donny never got invited to do those "destructive and illicit behaviors", did he?

12/2/2010 10:37:37 AM

Mister Spak

Don Battens proselytizing ways remind me of my pimply youthful days at boarding school where those into smoking cigarettes and boozing (worse was yet to come) seemed to be really keen to get others to follow their destructive and illicit behaviour. Why did they try to coerce their fellow students into doing such things? Was it ‘safety in numbers’, that they felt a little guilty for their behaviour and would feel more secure if they could get more to join in their little rebellion?

Don Battens obsessive campaign to try to convince others to be christians reminds me of those days. Perhaps it is not that Battens really believes that there is a Creator-God, but that he wishes there were and if he could just convince enough others to agree with him, then he will feel more secure. Has he confused his wishful thinking for reality?

Fixed.

12/2/2010 11:06:05 AM

GigaGuess

Perhaps it is not that Dawkins really believes that there is no Creator-God, but that he wishes there were not and if he could just convince enough others to agree with him, then he will feel more secure.

Says the man who is whipped into a panic about someone daring to publicly voice their disbelief in your God. Who's the insecure one?

12/2/2010 11:41:20 AM

Shadoboy

Then why are Xtians like you always so insistent in converting others?

12/2/2010 11:54:06 AM

Canadiest

Here's the real reason and YOU KNOW IT. Christian numbers have kept Atheists silent and repressed in America, Atheists have been allowed no voice,worse under threat for even proclaiming their Atheism.

Hitchens and Dawkins have already noted the statistical rise in Atheism as unlikely they're new Atheist, just ones who feel the enviroments more accepting then it was.
How many in the Bible belt believe not a word of Christianity since they were young yet would never admit it. Why do many American churchs villify unbelievers, undermine Atheistic achievements and routinely call for laws to silence them?

Because you can see the tipping point coming, because you know your bullshit can't survive on it's own.

You KNOW you have to silence the unbelievers before they have a signifigant group voice

Of a country that contains a reported 85% Christian population it's odd that not even a third of that attend church.

12/2/2010 12:33:36 PM

Old Viking

I must concede that wishful thinking leads to strange perception.

12/2/2010 12:54:12 PM

ANALH

"Why did they try to coerce their fellow students into doing such things?"

Coerce, what a hypocrit. The government "coerces" on this matter, bourgeois puritanism coerces on this matter. I doubt any of the students threatened or attacked the other students if they refused.

And why? Because it's fun and just like when you enjoy anything else you tell other people "you gotta check this out."

It's ironic that anti-drug people emphasize "not listening to peer pressure" when most of the pressure is actually against drugs and in reality people do drugs because it's fun or to explore different states of being, not because other people are doing it.

12/2/2010 1:07:44 PM



"Has he confused his wishful thinking for reality?"

No. Next question.

12/2/2010 1:08:29 PM



I'm getting sick and tired of all those hordes of atheists who show up at my door every Sunday morning, trying to hand me blank pamphlets.



I CAN HAZ NOO KEEBORD?!?!?

12/2/2010 1:11:02 PM

Wehpudicabok

Because writing books with reasoned arguments for a position contrary to theism is totally a destructive and illicit behaviour. Right.

12/2/2010 1:23:03 PM

SeekerLancer

I would do that whole copy-paste meme where I replace any mention of Dawkins with the author of this post and it would convey the exact same message in reverse because of the hypocrisy here but I don't think it's necessary anymore.

12/2/2010 1:27:35 PM

Starscream

Shit! The irony meter, she's gonna blow!

*Runs a safe distance and dives behind a pile of sandbags as mushroom cloud erupts on the horizon*


Great. 5th one this week...

12/2/2010 1:42:35 PM

Canadia

Oh look, it's that egocentric crap that everyone ~REALLY~ thinks like them, even if they say they don't!

12/2/2010 2:04:05 PM
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