Being a homosexual is wrong and always will be wrong in the sight of God. Lets quit sugar coating this sin and call it what it is "SIN". Can a homosexual go to Church and the answer is yes. Unless they are living in a homosexual relationship, then the answer would be no.
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Okay, then let's stop sugar coating everything in the Bible. That means we should be going after Red Lobster, hospital workers, everyone in retail stores that works on the sabbath as well as other people who have a job that requires them to work that day, Mcdonald's for serving cows with cheese, anyone who hasn't sold all of their possessions, anyone whose righteousness does not exceed that of the pharisees, anyone who covets (which means practically every customer), any child that disobeys their parents, any woman who doesn't scream when she is raped (even if she is bound and gagged or has a knife/gun to her throat), any person who does not hate his father/mother/family as well as those who do not honor their father and their mother, any person who adds things to the Bible, etc. Those are ALL sins in the Bible and quite a few of them are considered abominations thus sharing equal status with homosexuality in the Bible. And anyone that claims otherwise is just sugar-coating those other 'sins'.
So, if they ARE gay, then they can go to church, but if they ACT gay, they can't? Sounds to me like your god is a little jealous.
Can't go to church? Can't how? Like, will they burst into flame as soon as they walk in?
Actually... anybody want to try walking into Matt's church?
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I would like to put that theory to the test but unfortunately, I do not live in America.
Or wherever this idiot lives.
"Lets quit sugar coating this sin and call it what it is "SIN"."
Lets quit beating around the bush and call it what it is, a fundamentalist christian prejudice.
I don't care WHAT you think your alleged puppeteer (probably just you) thinks of homosexuals. According to my belief system you're a horrible person and would go to hell if there was one.
But I don't believe in hell so you're lucky in that respect.
If you ban them from your church how are they ever going to repair their relationship to God, dipstick?
You let the liars, thieves, and murderers in, don't you?
Let's prove your religion and God are real first, ok?
Once that's done we can enforce all the religious bullshit you want
And if you get divorced, which is obviously wrong according to the Bible, can you go to Church? Of course you can, since such a large number of Christians are divorced, the Bible must have just been providing recommendations about that part, not like homosexuality.
Wait, being a homosexual is not mentioned at all in the NT. If you want to be consequent, at least convert to Judaism and don't work in Sabbath, for that matter.
Being a wnaker is wrong and always will be wrong in the sight of God. Lets quit sugar coating this sin and call it what it is "SIN". Can a wanker go to Church and the answer is yes. Unless they are persistantly wanking, then the answer would be no.
Oops- Matt's not allowed in either!
@ HoverSponge Could the fact they were goat herders have anything to do with prejudice? I mean, there's no indictment man on goat/sheep sex and that has long been the favoured solution to herder frustration. Biblically goats and sheep are "clean" animals not "beasts", if you know what I mean.
So Matt would enforce chastity (i.e. no sex) on gays - and probably on everyone else.
Well matt, I for one would call you a liar if you said that you had never wanked. So who are you to throw stones at other.
Jesus's 'Motes and beams' comment applies even to bigots like you.
@ Sane Chick,
Matt is indulging in the favourite passtime of fundies: Cherry-Picking from the Bible all that sits well with their personal prejucices/
So what you're saying is that sinners aren't allowed in Church?
Isn't one of the tenets of Christianity that human beings are innately sinful?
There must be a lot of empty pews in your church.
The reason I submitted this was because of the idea that gays can go to church, but not allowed to if in a homosexual relationship. This goes way beyond the attitude of most Christians and into fundieland. Like, how are you supposed to bring gays closer to God if you don't allow them to attend church? No, it's more like "Ew, keep those icky gays away from me!" Oh yeah and if you notice he doesn't say anything about a non-married heterosexual couple not being allowed in church.
Being an infidel is wrong and will always be wrong in the sight of Allah, because islam is the real religion.
Let's quit sugar coating this sin and call it what it is - you are an evil god-hating infidel.
Several homosexual couples attend my church (Unitarian). In fact, quite a few of them have had commitment ceremonies in my church ... and it won't be long before gay couples can have full-fledged legal weddings in my true blue state.
Makes me proud. Makes Matt sick. And that makes me even prouder!
"Unless they are living in a homosexual relationship, then the answer would be no."
Fine with me. The less I have to deal with you people in my life, the better.
Before we even start discussing what sin really is, please provide proof...nevermind...evidence, that the invisible man in the sky you worship really exists.
The fact that you base your entire outlook on the world on totally unsubstantiated myth is your first problem. Proceeding from those faulty assumtions is your second.
An imaginary being cannot have sight. Sin is an artificial concept invented by man and is worthless in determining moral conduct. There was a time when slavery was not sinful; it was no less evil simply because it was accepted practice. Ditto for beating your wife and children.
As society evolves, so does morality.
"Can a homosexual go to Church and the answer is yes. Unless they are living in a homosexual relationship, then the answer would be no."
And we'd want to go to your stupid fucking church, why?
Wearing a polyester blend, Matt? Made any burnt or heave offerings lately, Matt. Done any work or travel on the sabbath, Matt? Then shut you friggin' hypocritical mouth, A**bite.
Can someone who loves shellfish go to church and the answer is yes. Unless they eat at Red Lobster, then the answer is no.
Oh and why does this just pertain to gay people and not straight couples living in an unmarried heterosexual relationship? Seems like it would be just as bad in God's eyes. Unless they were eating shellfish or cheeseburgers.
I'd love to go to church, but I'm not allowed in. My balls were crushed in a childhood accident.
OK, not really, but it is in the bible. I just hope Tim Tebow wears a cup.
"Being a homosexual is wrong and always will be wrong in the sight of God."
Except if you live in America. If you do, then there are certain circumstances when homosexual action is your unalienable birthright. The circumstances being when you are a Christian and you have been imprisoned for being a criminal.
Remember, it's your damn right to have arse-love in jail. Luckily, most of your fellow Americans in the prison will be Christians, so party-on!
Thank the Lord that He saw fit to set in stone the sacred sodomy rituals for Christian prisoners. Just check your Bible, it's in the bit about America the Holy Land.
So...a man can kill someone, walk to church, raping multiple women along the way, smashing windows all the while, setting random fires and jaywalking...but he's still welcome in the Lord's loving bosom. But if he fucks another man, that is unforgivable.
Your God has fucked up priorities.
The freedom of religion that allows you to be Christian states that people are allowed to express whatever belief they choose regardless of their personal circumstances. You fundies seem to think that homosexuals need to be 'liberated' from their sin, and yet you'll never even approach them or talk to them, railing curses at them instead. Miserable hypocrites, you go against the principles of your so-called leader, Christ.
Goddamn it! You forgot how your sentence began by the time you finished it! I hate it when people do that!!!!
Also, asshole. You are in fact wrong. Homosexual relationships only get people socially debarred from some churches, and categorically don't necessarily do so at all.
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