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[Re. the repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell."]

The armies of other nations have allowed gays to serve openly in the military. The reason they could afford to do this is simple: they could allow homosexuals to serve in their military because we didn’t allow them to serve in ours.

They knew they could count on the strength, might, power, and cohesion of the U.S. military to intervene whenever and wherever necessary to pull their fannies out of the fire and squash the forces of tyranny wherever they raised their ugly heads around the world.

Those days are now gone. We will no longer be able to bail out these other emasculated armies because ours will now be feminized and neutered beyond repair, and there is no one left to bail us out. We have been permanently weakened as a military and as a nation by these misguided and treasonous Republican senators, and the world is now a more dangerous place for us all.

Bryan Fischer, Rightly Concerned 101 Comments [12/22/2010 6:26:09 AM]
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12/23/2010 7:48:35 AM

LionLedByDonkeys

@ Anon-e-moose

Re Alan Turing,the gay designer of "Colossus", the world's first electronic computer,which was built at Bletchley Park during WW II.

There was enough left of the original machine to rebuild it,so the British government recently declassified it and rebuilt it with a view to putting it on public display in a museum at Bletchley Park.

However it was discovered to be capable of doing things that even modern computers can't do,so it was promptly reclassified and disassembled once again.

12/23/2010 8:32:07 AM



You have to admit that DADT was a pretty stupid policy to begin with. It's like the military was saying "We don't care if you're gay, unless you're a flaming faaaaaabulous! kind of gay, then we'll kick you out." Or in other words, it was saying "OK you can join but stay the fuck in the closet."

12/23/2010 9:26:27 AM

Brenz

Why'd they even bother having armies, then? Why waste the money?

12/23/2010 12:13:26 PM

Mihangel apYrs

Xotan
Joyeux Noel

ERII was rightly pissed, and it's said carpetted royally Thatcher.

But a conclusive US victory, if a mess afterwards.

I fear that the US military is very good in places, but has quite a few dunderheads.

sante

12/23/2010 12:44:47 PM

I Read About The Afterlife\

Alexander The Great just texted me. He said he wants to have a word with you and then kick your ass.

12/23/2010 3:34:35 PM

Skyknight

{ahem} Sacred Band of Thebes. Made ENTIRELY of dedicated homosexual couples (Promiscuity? What promiscuity?). Convened on the theory that no soldier would want to shame himself with cowardice while his beloved was present, and motivation would be fortified by desire to protect one's beloved.

Played a decisive role in shattering Spartan power (mostly by making it impossible for the Spartans to keep their helot slaves from running away). Also fought to the last man to oppose Alexander, and Alexander forbade any to speak ill of them, so great was their valor and ferocity.

Still think homosexuals are frail-willed?

12/23/2010 4:44:44 PM



I agree with the OP. God forbid the panty toting obamacorps actually let women serve in the military ontop of the fag.... what? WOMEN TOO!!?!?!? OBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

12/24/2010 2:14:24 AM

solomongrundy

They knew they could count on the strength, might, power, and cohesion of the U.S. military to intervene whenever and wherever necessary to pull their fannies out of the fire and squash the forces of tyranny wherever they raised their ugly heads around the world.

Oddly enough it was the 1939-45 war in Europe, not the 1941-45 war.

the world is now a more dangerous place for us all.
Having lived through the Cold War I feel safer now than any time in my life (despite the antics of the Muslim fundies...).


12/24/2010 4:35:40 AM

Nowonmai

News flash, brain trust, there have always been gays in the military.

12/24/2010 4:45:38 AM

Orion

The trouble is with their inevitable military and hegemonic decline already in process these wackjobs will be telling us all how right they were about "teh gheys" ruining everything.

Or something.

12/24/2010 4:48:19 AM



Actually, the other way round too works. United States counts on those armies who allow homosexuals to keep on going. Funny, eh?

12/24/2010 9:16:47 AM

Anon-e-moose

@LionLedByDonkeys

"@ Anon-e-moose

However it was discovered to be capable of doing things that even modern computers can't do,so it was promptly reclassified and disassembled once again."

Also, several years ago, in a magazine article, it was discovered by those who'd rebuilt Colossus that it had the multitasking abilities of a 75 MHz Pentium.

My friend who is contracted by MI6 to work on GCHQ's supercomputers four times a year (he works at Leeds University's IT section usually) knows of this, and has even asked to see Colossus operating thusly. Despite his security clearance (he had to sign the Official Secrets Act, prior to getting the contract), the relevant Home Office/MI6 officials refused his request.

It makes one wonder what Alan Turing really put into that machine, considering his genius, eh?

Whilst I'm no Conspiracy Theorist by any stretch of the imagination, but the whole 'Turing committed suicide because of the establishment's attitude to homosexuality' thing may have been a cover - to ensure his knowledge wouldn't fall into the hands of the Soviets - isn't beyond the realms of impossibility, eh? Certainly something more believably credible, considering the attitudes of the time.

[/CSTDT]

And my friend tells me that, whilst MI6 shares their anti-terrorist info with the US's FBI, CIA & NSA, otherwise they have to beg on their hands & knees just for the merest sniff of access to the huge database at GCHQ.

Not just 'Know your eneny and know yourself, and you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles' (Sun Tzu), nor 'Keep your enemies closer, but your friends close'

What do GCHQ/MI6 know about our friends over the pond, eh?

Diplomacy is a powerful tool. But Knowledge is truly Power.

12/24/2010 11:02:01 AM

LionLedByDonkeys

@ anon-e-moose.

Thank you for confirmation of this.My information was from a personal communication too.

Whatever else may be true Alan Turing was a man way ahead of his time.

BTW .During the cold war potential British recruits to the KGB were instructed to find employment with GCHQ,MI5 or 6, The Times, or the BBC, in that order.
Note who heads the list.

12/24/2010 1:27:46 PM

Kat S.

Judging from the other statements you have made how the U.S. military's function is to "kill people and break things", and the Medal of Honor should be given to those who "take the hill" and "take out pillboxes", it's painfully obvious, to me at least, that you:
Never have been in the military yourself
Know nothing about what the U.S. military faces overseas in combat.
Don't know anything about the U.S. military today or the military of other countries.

The world isn't like in the Will Smith movie Independence Day where everyone is waiting for us to make a decision, follows us to victory, and place us to high esteem afterwards.

12/25/2010 2:14:57 PM



Bryan Fischer is a repulsive excuse for a human being.

12/26/2010 6:58:48 AM

Shadoboy

Stop pretending America is the World Police.

1/2/2011 12:34:37 AM




3/17/2011 7:36:32 PM

JP Monceau

Depuis que le monde est monde , de toutes les armées depuis l'antiquité nous n'avons jamais d'exclu pour homosexualité, refuser des hommes et femmes pour leur homosexualité est contre nature , car toute personne est capable de dèfendre leur nation

4/9/2011 11:05:57 AM

Tempus

Gays and lesbians are vicious, aggressive creatures who endanger everything around them, and yet somehow they turn passive and listless the second they enlist in the armed forces. Okay. Makes perfect sense. Really.

4/9/2011 1:04:13 PM



My stepfather works in the Canadian Forces. He went to Afghanistan. Canada army was doing pretty well, so did France, Britain, Germany, etc... And nobody was entirely relying on the U.S...

4/19/2011 4:22:14 PM

Feral Dog

@ anon: sorry about that! Given the people I usually see that join our military (lots of backwards illiterates, tons of self-righteous asses, and a handful of intelligent people) I'm hardly surprised. It's shameful.

7/9/2011 1:35:02 AM

Martine R

Or maybe the reason is that sexuality has nothing to do with somebody's ability or right to serve in the army.

7/9/2011 2:22:36 AM

CanadianBroad

"... squash the forces of tyranny wherever they raised their ugly heads around the world."

Excuse me for a moment ...

(Aaaaaaaah-hahahahahahahahahaahahaaaaaa ... gasp-wheeze-choke)

Sorry ... you were saying?

Oh wait a sec, gotta sneeze ...

(Aaaah... aaaah -zimbabwe-somalia-iran-saudi arabia-north korea-china- Choooooo ...)

You were saying something about squashing tyranny wherever it was, I think?



6/3/2012 9:07:55 AM

VietVet

Hmmm, it appears you are making statements without any reference to research or data. In brief, reasoning - - - as a historian, you should read up on the Greek armies and their might, as well as a very significant consideration. Men fought like Hell because their partners were there.
Think of that strategy. Interesting.

Overall, as a heterosexual, I find you thought process missing a link to reason. Also, the discharge men/women from the armed services were very good (do the research, not spouting ignorance, please - - that is boring).
Finally, as a Viet Nam Vet, there was a homosexual in our squad. A damn good guy, honest, and a good marksmen.
Oh, Rev, did your serve? If you didn't, I think my thoughts trump your stupidity if you did not serve. Oh, yeah, I lost a foot while in Nam.

11/1/2012 12:23:03 PM
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