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As long as millions of Christian children, one generation after another, are sent to Christ-denying public schools, where they are taught that science trumps the Bible, there can be no hope of recovery. By surrendering their children to these schools, Christians become a party to their own destruction. Christian children all need Christian educations. We are sorry if our saying so hurts anyone’s feelings—but how are we to tiptoe around the pitfall of Christian children being schooled by atheists? Church-going Christians wouldn’t dream of sending their children to a Muslim school; why do they send them to the public schools?

These children—those who don’t abandon the faith entirely—are the future congregations of America’s churches. Steeped in the secular “faith” and reverence for “science,” how likely are they to demand a day of reckoning from science?

As long as Christians’ focus is on the church as an institution, rather than on God and His Word and their duty to live by God’s Word in this world, the institutional church’s first priority will always be to sustain itself as an institution. The people have failed to demand anything greater from it.

“And there shall be, like people, like priest,” said the prophet Hosea (Hosea 4:9)—the people won’t be any better than their church, and the church won’t be any better than its people.

We don’t mean to suggest that Christians can’t be or shouldn’t be scientists. We say the opposite—that Christians should never have abandoned science to the atheists. Science is just another sphere of life that ought to be taken captive for Christ. Indeed, it’s difficult to see how the whole scientific enterprise could ever have begun, absent the Christian teaching that a wise and rational God created the heavens and the earth and that man, given dominion by God over His creation, could apply his God-given intellect to discover the creation’s laws and inner workings.

Lee Duigon, The Chalcedon Foundation 69 Comments [12/26/2010 3:44:03 PM]
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Beaver

Holy shit.

12/26/2010 3:53:04 PM

D Laurier

These psychos are Dominionists.
They want to force everyone to profess belief in their bizzare version of christianity.

12/26/2010 4:00:36 PM

Shanya Almafeta

Science is just another sphere of life that ought to be taken captive for Christ.

Is this guy a Senator?

12/26/2010 4:12:24 PM

DevilsChaplain

@Shanya Almafeta

No, thank Darwin, he's just some freelance Christian writer.

12/26/2010 4:28:05 PM

WMDKitty

Odd. Applying "God-given" intellect consistently leads to science and ATHEISM...

12/26/2010 4:41:15 PM

evilred

If this writer gets his way, there'd be a whole generation (or more) screwed for life.

12/26/2010 4:45:50 PM



The age of scientific discovery arguably started (and then stopped until the Renaissance) with the ancient Muslims, rather than the even then censorship-happy Christians. So spin on it.

12/26/2010 4:50:55 PM

dionysus

Science is just another sphere of life that ought to be taken captive for Christ.

The creationist movement in a nutshell.

12/26/2010 4:51:05 PM

Grigadil

Be of good cheer, Lee Duigon, the Roman Catholic Church has recently advanced exorcism into the 21st Century.

12/26/2010 4:54:07 PM

Papabear

It has been conclusively shown that science DOES trump the Bible. If it didn't, you would go to a priest instead of a doctor, a priest instead of a car-maker, you'd seek out a priest instead of an electrical utility or a grocery store. You can't do anything meaningful that hasn't been developed or improved for you by science. Now STFU and get off the made-possible-by-science internet.

12/26/2010 5:02:30 PM

anevilmeme

STFU Talaban wannabe!

12/26/2010 5:16:28 PM

tjonp

If Christianity is such an ultimate truth, God should make it so obviously true that brainwashing children is unnecessary.

12/26/2010 5:38:36 PM

David B.

"where they are taught that science trumps the Bible"

Which, of course, it does. Which is why people like Lee here want it neutered, controlled and twisted to their own agenda.

Can't have their retarded little flock beginning to think for themselves. Without someone to shear, how would a shepherd make a living?

12/26/2010 5:43:12 PM

Ken

It's kind of hard to take you seriously when you believe that the cure for everything is prayer, babies come from God's blessing, and disease is punishment for sin.

12/26/2010 6:07:16 PM

Brendan Rizzo

Christians haven't "abandoned science to the atheists". There are still many Christians who are scientists. The atheists have no problem with them.

But anyway, since you support science, you must realize that truth cannot contradict itself. Obviously, one cannot take the Bible literally when we know that that position is untenable.

As long as Christians’ focus is on the church as an institution, rather than on God and His Word and their duty to live by God’s Word in this world, the institutional church’s first priority will always be to sustain itself as an institution. The people have failed to demand anything greater from it.

Ugh, you're confusing me.

12/26/2010 6:07:51 PM

Berny

Public schools exclude religion but that doesn't make them atheistic. It makes them neutral on the subject.
Christian Science is mutually exclusive terminology. The simple truth is that, while early scientists may have been Christians, the more we have discovered about our universe, the less room there has been for god.
Religion and science are natural enemies. One is based on evidence, the other on faith and the supernatural.
I'll keep my stock in the factual.

12/26/2010 6:19:49 PM

John

Public schools don't deny Christ. They leave education about faith to the parents. They stick to information about the physical world. That some of that information may conflict with someone's beliefs is a fact of life. If you teach your children that the world is flat or the sun revolves around the earth or the earth was covered entirely with miles of water as a matter of faith, sooner or later they're going to learn that that's nonsense that conflicts with what we observe. At that point, you've done more harm to your child's faith than the teacher, because you've shown yourself to be a liar and a fool. St. Augustine wrote about this in the fourth century. You should have listened to him.

12/26/2010 6:28:02 PM

Old Viking

We are eating your lunch.

12/26/2010 6:28:33 PM

TGRwulf

You have no idea how the world works do you?

12/26/2010 7:20:57 PM

Alencon

You'll notice there is nothing about reality or truth in this idiotic rant.

12/26/2010 7:45:00 PM

Doubting Thomas

As long as millions of Christian children, one generation after another, are sent to Christ-denying public schools, where they are taught that science trumps the Bible, there can be no hope of recovery.

Thank goodness for that.

By surrendering their children to these schools, Christians become a party to their own destruction.

And yet, our country is still around 80% Christian.

Christian children being schooled by atheists?

NOT ALL TEACHERS ARE ATHEISTS. IN FACT, MOST OF THEM ARE CHRISTIAN. Sorry, but I just had to shout it.

Christians should never have abandoned science to the atheists. Science is just another sphere of life that ought to be taken captive for Christ.

Yes, so we can bring back blood-letting with leeches, the idea that the earth is the center of the universe and never moves, disease is caused by sin and/or evil spirits, and offering up sacrifices to ensure a good harvest.

How much you want to bet that this guy typed this nonsense on a computer running Windows invented by a well-known atheist?

12/26/2010 9:35:19 PM



If you think that science is so useless, why are you using a computer, deviced and designed by both an atheist and a gay man?

12/26/2010 11:20:13 PM

loki

Christians, Muslims. People like these are the reason Christianity was a 99% science vacuum for 500 years and Islam was thrown in this science vacuum about a 1000 years ago and ended one of the most advanced civilizations on earth. Christian Europe was lucky that it woke up just in time to accept that knowledge before it fell out of grace in the Islamic world. And if we are not careful this will happen agian with our (western) civilization.

12/26/2010 11:25:13 PM



ie we need to go back to the dark ages where science was forced to work under Christian rule and really flourished.

12/27/2010 2:15:29 AM

Zagadka

blah, blah, science bad blah, blah,
OR maybe you're just a dumbass

12/27/2010 3:27:47 AM
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