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As long as millions of Christian children, one generation after another, are sent to Christ-denying public schools, where they are taught that science trumps the Bible, there can be no hope of recovery. By surrendering their children to these schools, Christians become a party to their own destruction. Christian children all need Christian educations. We are sorry if our saying so hurts anyone’s feelings—but how are we to tiptoe around the pitfall of Christian children being schooled by atheists? Church-going Christians wouldn’t dream of sending their children to a Muslim school; why do they send them to the public schools?

These children—those who don’t abandon the faith entirely—are the future congregations of America’s churches. Steeped in the secular “faith” and reverence for “science,” how likely are they to demand a day of reckoning from science?

As long as Christians’ focus is on the church as an institution, rather than on God and His Word and their duty to live by God’s Word in this world, the institutional church’s first priority will always be to sustain itself as an institution. The people have failed to demand anything greater from it.

“And there shall be, like people, like priest,” said the prophet Hosea (Hosea 4:9)—the people won’t be any better than their church, and the church won’t be any better than its people.

We don’t mean to suggest that Christians can’t be or shouldn’t be scientists. We say the opposite—that Christians should never have abandoned science to the atheists. Science is just another sphere of life that ought to be taken captive for Christ. Indeed, it’s difficult to see how the whole scientific enterprise could ever have begun, absent the Christian teaching that a wise and rational God created the heavens and the earth and that man, given dominion by God over His creation, could apply his God-given intellect to discover the creation’s laws and inner workings.

Lee Duigon, The Chalcedon Foundation 69 Comments [12/26/2010 3:44:03 PM]
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nazani14

Council of Chalcedon- 451 AD. Followed this event: "Dioscorus then moved to depose Flavian and Eusebius of Dorylaeum on the grounds that they taught the Word had been made flesh and not just assumed flesh from the Virgin and that Christ had two natures. When Flavian and Hilary objected, Dioscorus called for a pro-monophysite mob to enter the church and assault Flavian as he clung to the altar." In other words, people killing each other over flavors of woo. The Dark Ages off to a running start.

Makes me wish the Huns had been a bit more thorough. Guess it's no secret who the latter-day Chalcedonians want to have assaulted and exiled.

12/27/2010 3:29:32 PM

aaa

Yet another power-hungry deacon who wants to be the next Kent Hovind.

12/27/2010 4:03:14 PM

Tolpuddle Martyr

So you want everyone to be students of religious "schools", you do know that "Taliban" means "student" dont you?

12/27/2010 4:26:04 PM

Brendan Rizzo

@ nazani14:

Actually, the modern Christians are descended from the people who believed that Christ had two natures. (In other words, the people who had been persecuted by Dioscorus.) The "latter-day Chalcedonians" would be those who the Chalcedon Foundation dislike, by this analogy.

However, your analysis is otherwise excellent. I could imagine uneducated fundies killing people if their pastors told them that the victims were "heretics", and if they thought for one second that they would get away with it.

12/27/2010 5:40:27 PM

Nowonmai

If you want to keep your head up your ass and pretend the Buy Bull is for real, far be it from me to stop you.

12/27/2010 5:55:43 PM

TheJebusFire


As long as millions of Christian children, one generation after another, are sent to Christ-denying public schools, where they are taught that science trumps the Bible, there can be no hope of recovery.

I must have been sick that day because I don't ever recall learning that.



12/27/2010 6:57:42 PM



Most teachers are Christian.

And as for "Taking control"? As in forcing people to believe what you believe?
*Dramatic gun Cock*
Try it Motherf*cker.

12/27/2010 9:21:59 PM

Burning Stake

No, no no. I was going to just let this one slide as another angry Christian whose seen many of his fellow believers "bested" by science...

Steeped in the secular “faith” and reverence for “science,” how likely are they to demand a day of reckoning from science?

but I give a hearty Fuck. You. to that. Not only would I be dead were it not for science, but my mother would likely be as well, so my younger brother and sister would never have existed and my dad would be very, very sad.

Plus, you know, you yourself might not even be here without modern sanitation, modern medicine, etc.


Either live like Jesus did (i.e. not only poor, but with Antiquity science the best you have) or leave the rest of us, the modern world, alone. Please.

12/28/2010 12:52:25 AM

nutbunny

"Science is just another sphere of life that ought to be taken captive for Christ."

Science is not to be beholden to any fixed creed of any sort. That's not how it works. Science tries to find out what we don't know, not enforce what we take to be Gospel.


12/28/2010 2:57:23 AM



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12/28/2010 3:04:49 AM

Hive

Jesus does not belong in school. Neither does any religion. That's what church and your house is for.

12/29/2010 5:14:28 PM

Lithp

"Christian...being schooled by atheists"

That's a Freudian slip if there ever was one.

12/30/2010 12:51:20 PM

Jade Goggles

well, i was taught at a christian private school for most of my life. i gotta say, the science texts where horrendous and misleading. it'd be criminal to teach children such biased courses in a public school.

it's better to teach kids what is proven to have happened with as little bias as possible at school, and then teach them 'oh this is what god said, just ignore the science stuff' at home.

12/30/2010 2:08:10 PM

Brianisha

Boo hoo, the persecuted majority complex.

Id like to point out thanks to you fundy fuckwits, the public school system is now falling apart. Way to go!

12/31/2010 2:28:44 PM

Serph

I could almost understand the logic until the last paragraph. WTF!? Does he even know what science is?

2/13/2011 11:21:23 AM

Quantum Mechanic

Stop using computers.

7/25/2013 2:10:48 AM

Swede

Too much Christianity might not be good for Christianity. When I started school, Sweden was a Christian nation and had a state church. We had Christianity lessons in school, and all end-of-semester cellebrations happened in church. Every school-day started and ended with a hymn.

Guess which country is now one of the least religious countries in the world, Lee...

1/12/2014 4:59:13 AM

Justanotheratheist

Why can't Jebus hurry up and rapture these morons already, so the world can be a vastly better place afterwards.

1/12/2014 5:39:22 AM

Dr. Shrinker

"...where they are taught that science trumps the Bible,..."

- Only if they want results

1/12/2014 6:45:22 AM
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