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Elijah: If you want to see some real bashing, try being a Christian chaplain in the military now that DADT has been repealed. This is the end of military chaplaincy as we know it. Please don't tell me the gay agenda is somehow inconsequential because there are few gays. The gay movement is all about criminalizing Christian dissent. They are succeeding. Get ready for being accused of a hate crime and losing your job, even your freedom, if you have a slip of the tongue at work or anywhere in public over over gay marriage and any gay-related issue. Sincerely, Michael Neutzling

Michael Neutzling, afa.net 62 Comments [12/27/2010 3:37:01 PM]
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Musicalbookworm

Open gay service doesn't work that way! Gah, I'm not sure who has a more difficult time in the military, but I'm guessing it is either the Muslim or pagan chaplains.

12/27/2010 11:02:12 PM

GodotIsWaiting4U

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12/27/2010 11:07:49 PM

GigaGuess

If you want to see some real bashing, try being a Christian chaplain in the military now that DADT has been repealed. This is the end of military chaplaincy as we know it.
Okay, two points here; one...and you might wanna sit down for this, because this is a doozy...okay, first and foremost, there's more to Christianity than "fags are evil, and they will burn in hell." As I recall, there was a shitload about loving your neighbor, and not being a judgmental ass. Second, a chaplain, as I understand, is supposed to be there for spiritual solace, not screaming fire and brimstone.

Please don't tell me the gay agenda is somehow inconsequential because there are few gays.
Okay, how about "we're human beings too, and deserve the right to not have people harassing us just like you do." That sound a little bit better?

The gay movement is all about criminalizing Christian dissent.
No, it's about impressing upon people that in spite of what you folks say, we are not evil rapist child molesters, devoid of morality, and are in fact functional human beings who deserve to live happily, again, just like you.

They are succeeding. Get ready for being accused of a hate crime and losing your job, even your freedom, if you have a slip of the tongue at work or anywhere in public over over gay marriage and any gay-related issue.
Oh, I KNOW! Just yesterday, I meant to say to my friend, "please pass the salt," but wouldn't you know? I accidentally said "Fucking child molesting queers will burn in hell, so let's beat some of their skulls in tonight." My goodness, it was embarrassing.

12/27/2010 11:43:38 PM

Canadia

Wait, I thought they were doing it and it was their fault. Are you saying if you have a slip of the tongue, such as accidently yelling FILTHY FAGGOTS in the middle of polite conversation, and lose your job, you have to also take personal responsibility for your own actions WITHOUT simply placing blame on the gays? Wait, no?

12/28/2010 12:37:43 AM

Swede

Nope, I won't get ready to be accused of a hate crime, since I don't hate gay people and am perfectly fine with them marrying each other.

Many gays are Christian, stupid. They are not out to criminalizing Christians. They just want to be included in "Love thy neighbor as yourself".
Just 'cause you want to ostracize people you find icky, doesn't mean other people want to do the same.

12/28/2010 1:02:02 AM

Amadaun

Hate crime does not work that way. In fact, the law does not work that way.

However, being sufficiently a dick can get you on thin ice at work just like always, and homophobia is increasingly recognized as within the 'being a dick' zone.

12/28/2010 1:43:04 AM



Ok, what would you do if somebody threatens you with death?, is that free speech too?

12/28/2010 4:40:21 AM

aaa

I have a text file on my hard drive where i collect things like Michael's little whine. It's called thingsthatneverhappened.rtf.

12/28/2010 4:54:25 AM



You know all the Muslim and Buddhist and Hindu and Atheist, and even Liberal soldiers are likewise protected from their fundie chaplains’ “slips of the tongue,” too. Being a military chaplain is not a license to harass.

12/28/2010 5:46:52 AM

Mister Spak

"If you want to see some real bashing, try being a Christian chaplain in the military now that DADT has been repealed."

You think they're going to be tied to fences? Or maybe they have to not ask and not tell that they're christians? Then be discharged from the military because they're christians? Is that the bashing you're talking about?


12/28/2010 7:00:51 AM

Berny

I've always wondered why there are chaplains in the armed forces. Your Christian teachings preach love for your fellow man and there you are counselling people whose job it is to kill people of the opposite camp.
You're hypocrites already, why should the repeal of DADT change anything?

12/28/2010 7:13:28 AM

Doubting Thomas

20 years from now, when there are still both chaplains and gays in the military, I hope you apologize for your stupidity.

And I seriously wonder about the mindset of these people where allowing equal rights for gays = totalitarian state where Christians are rounded up and imprisoned. Apparently they just don't understand the First Amendment.

12/28/2010 8:34:11 AM

WWWWolf

> If you want to see some real bashing, try being a Christian chaplain in the military now that DADT has been repealed. This is the end of military chaplaincy as we know it.

Let me guess: You have absolutely no idea what military chaplains even do, aside of vague idea that they're chaplains and that they're in the military. And you're even less clueful about what the real problems they face are. You're just vaguely assuming that the job of the military chaplains is to squash gayness.

OK, this isn't directly comparable due to slight cultural differences, I guess, but I was in the Finnish Defence Forces. I saw a few military chaplains. They didn't do damn about the fact that there were gay people serving there, and, coincidentally, neither did the gay people do anything about them.

Well, actually, people didn't discuss gay people much at that time. I guess the military chaplains had a much, much, much bigger headache at hand: a bunch of youngsters, pretty vocally slipping away from Christianity and displaying signs of jadedness about religious matters. You know, if I had been a military chaplain, I might have stuck on some really obvious and pressing problems first, and not try to focus on issue that neither the church, the military nor the personnel frowned at.

12/28/2010 8:35:27 AM

Anon-e-moose

"If you want to see some real bashing, try being a Christian chaplain in the military now that DADT has been repealed. This is the end of military chaplaincy as we know it"

*YAWN*

So? From the point of view of we Atheists, that's a bad thing... how?

Methinks that could be a way for the DoD to save some money in their defence budget. After all...

What practical purpose do military chaplains serve, ultimately?

Or they could just STFU and accept what their political masters have decided, and President Obama has signed into law. They have no choice. They must accept it. Why? (emphasis added):

'I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.'

Checkmate, Mikey-boy.

@Mister Spak

'If you want to see some real bashing, try being a Christian chaplain in the military now that DADT has been repealed.'

"You think they're going to be tied to fences? Or maybe they have to not ask and not tell that they're christians? Then be discharged from the military because they're christians? Is that the bashing you're talking about?"

Call it Reverse-DADT. Karma. What goes around comes around. The biter bitten.

Sweet revenge indeed.

Mikey-boy, if wishes were currency, you & your ilk would be homeless and starving.

>:D


12/28/2010 8:43:21 AM

Xotan,

1. Where can I buy a copy of this Gay Agenda?

2. Who publishes it?

3. How much per copy?

4. Who owns the copyright? I only want a legal copy.

12/28/2010 10:06:43 AM

JohnTheAtheist

Don't forget about the concentration camps for christians. We are preparing them now.

Seriously though, it is a violation of the constitution to have chaplains in the military anyway. They should go. But I'm not going to get my panties in a bunch over it.

12/28/2010 10:57:34 AM

solomongrundy

It's odd how both side of a war have 'Military Chaplains' of some sort too. I have no doubt the Iraqis have people in the military just as 'devout' as those the USA do and they're obviously equally as ineffective. A waste of space the lot of them.

12/28/2010 11:12:32 AM

DinosaurRidinJeebus

Then keep your bigoted fucking opinion out of the work place bitch.

12/28/2010 11:57:52 AM

vaiyt

Someone had their privilege broken! Call the waaahmbulances.

12/28/2010 1:16:44 PM

solomongrundy

aaa wrote:

I have a text file on my hard drive where i collect things like Michael's little whine. It's called thingsthatneverhappened.rtf

I have one called obamapersecutesraptureready.rtf. Sadly, there's nothing in it...


12/28/2010 1:27:55 PM

Old Viking

Words desperately searching for meaning.

12/28/2010 2:43:50 PM

breakerslion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_iH1GhM2j8

1975, or thereabouts.

The problem with "Christian dissent" is that it incites violence among the dingbats that listen to opinions about things that are none of one's business in the first place. Then, the ranters invariably deny any culpability over the rantee's unlawful and violent actions. All this happens because fanatical conformists are generally non-thinkers, and as such cannot distinguish between declared (alleged) authority and actual authority. Here's a clue: authority does not exist independently from responsibility.

12/28/2010 3:09:39 PM

nintendofreakgcn

Every time I hear about chaplains in the military, I think about superhumans in black power armour and skull helmets, chanting litanies of hate. Gotta love those re-rolls.

12/28/2010 4:15:08 PM

Darwin

"The gay movement is all about criminalizing Christian dissent."

Big. Steaming. Pile. Of. Horse. Fucking. SHIT!!!

12/28/2010 7:41:01 PM

Tyler

No. Just...no.

12/28/2010 8:16:48 PM
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