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If our great-grandmothers would arrive at a modern Christian school girls' basketball game, they would recoil in the horror as they would watch physically developed girls running around in brief outfits that expose their thighs and bouncing bosoms to the lustful eyes of any man wishing to look. Moreover, they would be shocked as they would see girls trying to "kill the opponent," yell, scream, fight, and in general, act in every way like a man.
Whatever happened to girls who studied to have a servant spirit and to be quiet, meek, demure, and shame faced? How are we training our girls to be meek, quiet, and submissive wives by encouraging them to "win at all costs," knock over your opponent if necessary, be loud, froward, and physical, while being dressed immodestly and while acting in a very masculine manner? Just because the world encourages these qualities in their daughters, must God's people do the same? Is it any wonder many girls from Christian backgrounds consider motherhood and being a housewife as being unfulfilling, a bore, unexciting, and beneath their dignity.

Moreover, many of these sports heroines have developed such boldness and forwardness from their sports activities, that they disdain the traditional and Biblical role of women. To such a girl, the Biblical mandate to be in submission to her husband and to even reverence him (Ephesians 5:24, 33) is outdated and unrealistic. She instead finds the raucous demands of "feminists" and the women's liberation crowd more to be her liking. After all, marriage is a 50/50 proposition is it not? She thinks to herself " I have just as much say around here as he does don't I?"

When such a girl marries, she is so quick and eager to establish "fairness" in her marriage, that she finds her marriage ending up in frustration, disillusionment and divorce.

Ronald E. Williams, gotothebible.com 102 Comments [12/31/2010 9:27:18 AM]
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Submitted By: DevilsChaplain
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Jezebel's Evil Sister

As the bible says, "If thine eye offend thee, pluck it out."

I am sharpening up an icepick for Mr. Williams.

P.S. I guess this one is no Sarah Palin fan.

12/31/2010 9:30:43 AM

dionysus

@Jezebel's Evil Sister

You're going too easy on him. That icepick should be aimed towards more important parts.

12/31/2010 9:33:42 AM

Doctor Whom

A man of quality is not threatened by a woman with equality. Ronald, on the other hand ....

12/31/2010 9:35:33 AM

Mudak

Not getting laid much, are you, Ron?

12/31/2010 9:36:59 AM

Davros

@Doctor Whom

You nailed my own opinion. Let me add that this man was born 100 years too late. Hell, even during the 1890s that sort of stuff was on the way out in most countries.

12/31/2010 9:42:07 AM

rw23

Phew! That was a close one. After reading his first sentence I almost made the mistake of assuming this was David J Stewart.

12/31/2010 9:48:14 AM

Frank

"Whatever happened to girls who studied to have a servant spirit and to be quiet, meek, demure, and shame faced"

They dried up and blew away regretting all the fun they missed out on.

12/31/2010 9:55:17 AM

Dr. Razark

"How are we training our girls to be meek, quiet, and submissive wives"

Why the fuck would we want to do that?

12/31/2010 9:57:49 AM

John_in_Oz

Yep, there ain't gunna be no fairness in any marriage ol Ron's involved in!

12/31/2010 10:03:01 AM

jas43

If women are also the beautiful creation of your all loving god then why keep them "shame faced"?

Because you're mentally unstable?

Gets my vote. +1

12/31/2010 10:05:36 AM

deepstriker

Ronald E. Williams? As in that Ronald E. Williams?

12/31/2010 10:22:48 AM

ND

Here is my impression of Ronald at a high school girls basketball game....

FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP

12/31/2010 10:47:16 AM

Reverend Jeremiah

"Moreover, they would be shocked as they would see girls trying to "kill the opponent," yell, scream, fight, and in general, act in every way like a man."

I beg to differ. Men are NOT like that, or at least not all men are like that. You may be like that, but you are obviously a hateful little shit. Just more hate speech from hate mongers...thats all you are spreading. besides, since when does yelling, fighting, and screaming have penises on them? Does that mean submissive, calm talking, and peace have vaginas? Since when does the concept of fairness only apply to men?

You are a hateful idiot..please fuck off.

P.S. - look at the divorce rates, over 50%, and religious people having a slightly higher rate than non-religious. So your ideas are bogus and deffinitely not working.

12/31/2010 11:00:28 AM

Canadia

Someone's threatened.

12/31/2010 11:00:47 AM



Well it's a good thing our great grandmothers are not alive anymore huh?

12/31/2010 11:08:52 AM



My great-grandmother got arrested at a suffragette demo ... so I think you may well be wrong, Ron.

12/31/2010 11:24:58 AM

Berny

The Bible is a pile of misogynistic tripe not fit for intelligent human consumption. Anyone basing their lives on its teachings is perfectly free to do so. What they don't have the right to do is insisting everyone else roll back the clock to the first century CE and follow suit.
My grand-mother (my kids' great-grandmother) was a liberated woman at the beginning of the 20th century fighting to get women the vote.
Too bad your great-grandmother was a doormat.

12/31/2010 11:27:12 AM

John

To such a girl, the Biblical mandate to be in submission to her husband and to even reverence him (Ephesians 5:24, 33) is outdated and unrealistic.

As it should be, especially since the guy who wrote it (Paul) was a sexually dysfunctional woman-hater who pulled it out of thin air (neither Jesus nor the OT ever said any such thing - Paul made it up himself).

12/31/2010 11:42:35 AM



"A man of quality is not threatened by a woman with equality."

I agree completely.

Moreover, maybe it could also be said that "A man of quality is not threatened by a woman with superiority."

After all, if men had the advantage for so long, why should they be afraid of losing any sort of power? They should understand it completely, and welcome a superior woman to lord over them.

What it comes down to is, a loss of power, and therefore a gain in the power of the woman, whether they are superior to him or just equal, to threaten his interests in some way or another. Sucks to be him, I guess.

12/31/2010 11:43:16 AM



girls who studied to have a servant spirit and to be quiet, meek, demure, and shame faced

You want girls to be servile, demure, meek, quiet and shame faced? And you want girls to want that for themselves? What is it you're afraid of Ron, that you need women to choose to be subservient to you? Scared you might get tingles in your dirty place if you see a girl's ankles?

Dip a toe into Saudi Arabia Ron, the theologically based patriarchy is lovely and warm.

12/31/2010 11:45:36 AM

Detrs

"Shame faced?"

12/31/2010 11:55:10 AM

DevilsChaplain

@deepstriker

Why yes, that's the same fellow.

12/31/2010 11:55:42 AM

D Laurier

Ronald has never met a 19th century fishwife.
Those ladies were tough.
My own great gran was a fishwife in the early 20th century.
At 13 she could wrestle a 300 lb tunny onto the cleaning floor, and have it down to hanging filets in under a minute.
She married in 1912, at age 14. She cleaned fish for a living untill her death in 1943.
She wore her fish knife on her arm, and cut more than a few folks who tried to tell her what to do.
She was handy with a fish gaff too. Broke a few heads in her day.

12/31/2010 12:04:12 PM

Itachirumon

@Deepstriker

That's what I was afraid of... and how is it this guy isn't like you know...in prison?

12/31/2010 12:10:23 PM

Papabear

"How are we training our girls to be meek, quiet, and submissive wives"

WE are not, nor should we be. Training any children to be "meek, quiet and submissive" is training them to be failures in the 21st century world. It's child abuse.

Ronnie probably dreams of young, submissive girls who will actually give him the time of day (and more) rather than real girls who wretch and run away from him.

12/31/2010 12:11:07 PM
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