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If this FEMA stuff is just conspiracy theory bunk, then why would a mainstream publication like Popular Mechanics even spend any time debunking it? Sounds more fishy than the Gulf Oil torpedo attack, I mean spill.

SavageNation, Popular Mechanics 50 Comments [1/13/2011 4:32:20 AM]
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Because they don't believe it's true? Telling people that you don't believe something is true does not make it true.

1/13/2011 4:42:32 AM

Doctor Whom

If a mainstream publication spends any time debunking something, then it must be true. Bullshit artists, add this to your arsenal of non-arguments.

1/13/2011 4:51:44 AM

"If this FEMA stuff is just conspiracy theory bunk, then why would a mainstream publication like Popular Mechanics even spend any time debunking it?"

Because it's bunk.

(posted by whatever, and yes I keep forgetting to put my name in the box)

1/13/2011 4:59:44 AM

while exhibiting wonderful nuttiness and flavor akin to snozzberries, doesn't this post belong in CSTDT?

1/13/2011 5:52:11 AM


What's FEMA?

1/13/2011 6:07:35 AM


The reason why this shit has to be debunked is because stupid people like you believe in bullshit.

1/13/2011 6:23:41 AM


If nobody contradicts a conspiracy theorist, then he claims "Aha! I must be right!" If somebody does contradict him, he says "if this is just bunk, how come you're bothering to debunk it"?

1/13/2011 6:26:06 AM


As far as concentration camps go, Its not something I would dismiss as kooky. Hitler made a concentration camp, so why cant some other fundy christians?

1/13/2011 6:29:25 AM

Brendan Rizzo

That's like saying that since astrology is just bunk, then why would mainstream astronomers spend time debunking it, or that since creationism is just bunk, why would mainstream biology publications spend time debunking it. They do because the dumbest and most uneducated section of society actually believe these things. It is extremely depressing. But anyway, this should be in CSTDT.

1/13/2011 6:32:26 AM

Doubting Thomas

I've really never understood the idea that "if they debunk my conspiracy theory, it just proves how true it is" until I realized that conspiracy theories are just like religions. They have followers who believe in it no matter what, and no amount of reality will ever dissuade them from believing in it. They believe in it so strongly that they think that anyone who debunks it is part of the conspiracy and putting out "disinformation."

1/13/2011 6:36:03 AM

Nut: “Torpedos destroyed Deep Horizon.”

Me: “That is a ridiculous idea.”

Nut: “Aha! You responded to me, so you know I’m right!”

Me: “WTF, mate?”

1/13/2011 6:50:30 AM

Doubting Thomas


FEMA is the Federal Emergency Management Agency, an agency set up to provide assistence in case of national emergencies. For instance, they (eventually) provided trailers for people to live in after Hurricane Katrina. But for some reason the conspiracy nuts beleive that FEMA is building concentration camps around the country and is going to be running the martial law which is to happen any day now.

1/13/2011 7:08:50 AM


> why would a mainstream publication like Popular Mechanics even spend any time debunking it?

Paraphrasing a comment from someone else: "Our company takes a considerate, well-weighted and, above all else, analytical official position that Adobe products are shit and we hate them."

There are people who refuse to debate with clueless people, because it obviously adds nothing new to the discussion. I personally find that problematic, because it's harder to learn things when no one bothers explaining why something is wrong. People who advocate total blocking out this way are wrong.

Yet, it's better that someone takes the time to explain why these people are clueless. If Popular Mechanics takes time to explain why some nutty conspiracy theory can't be true, that's good, because it gives other clueful people some easy-to-digest ammunition: "look, this has been done already; go read this article."

1/13/2011 7:24:18 AM


To show how fucking stupid it is? And where the fuck did that torpedo oil spill thing come from? First time I've heard that one...

1/13/2011 8:05:42 AM


People like debunking things that crazy people believe. It's fun.

(Aaand definitely a CSTDT.)

1/13/2011 8:20:59 AM


It's not just bunk, it's Glenn Beck bunk.
The real question is: Why would anyone believe in it when it has no evidence and it's trail leads to loons and liars who don't have any expertise in these things or contact with any authoritive people?

And why debunk it?
Because it's a huge lie which was created only to villify the current goverment, damn near traitorous and certainly irresposible.

Some people care about truth

1/13/2011 8:21:58 AM

Amanda for the win.

1/13/2011 8:31:40 AM


Yeah, seriously, it clearly means this is fact...I mean bullshit.

1/13/2011 8:42:15 AM



(emphasis added):

"What's FEMA?"

Though some may give them a ribbing about the concept, make no bones about it, FEMA poses a stern-um threat to the likes of SavageNation. Although we in FSTDT know he's telling a fibula or two.

...I'll get my coat.


1/13/2011 8:58:23 AM


Well done. You've got the reasoning of a nation of savages down perfectly!

1/13/2011 9:15:34 AM

Mister Spak

"why would a mainstream publication like Popular Mechanics even spend any time debunking it?"

Because there are 35 million conservatives who will believe any bunk as long as it comes out of Savages Bunker-O-Doom, and Popular Mechanics felt the need to debunk the right wing bunk.

1/13/2011 9:46:40 AM


... or is it? (tugs imaginary beard)

1/13/2011 9:49:47 AM


The same way in which Soldier Of Fortune magazine, did exactly the same thing, in a series of articles, back in the 1990's...
Then it was the evil U.N flying "Black Helicopters", amongst other things...
Note: The "Black Helicopter" Myth came about due to people in Arizona reporting mysterious helicopters painted black, flying about, piloted by men with Germanic accents...
Of course, people failed to realise that the U.S army base nearby, were training helicopter pilots for the German Army, hence the German accents of the pilots, and their helicopters were painted in the NATO Standard Europa 1 paint scheme...
(Note: under certain conditions, Europa 1, a dark green colour, can appear black, as the Israeli Defence Force found out, a couple of years ago, resulting in the mass repainting of their attack helicopter fleet....).

1/13/2011 10:08:57 AM


You seriously ask that? Someone's spreading bullshit, and you can't comprehend why anyone would point out that it was bullshit?

1/13/2011 10:24:50 AM


Torpedoes? That's a new one.

1/13/2011 11:02:29 AM

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