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How old is the world? Most people would say: "Nobody knows." But the author of the book frequently described as the greatest history book ever written, said the world was created Oct. 23, 4004 B.C. – making it exactly 6,014 next month. In the 1650s, an Anglican bishop named James Ussher published his "Annals of the World," subtitled, "The Origin of Time, and Continued to the Beginning of the Emperor Vespasian's Reign and the Total Destruction and Abolition of the Temple and Commonwealth of the Jews." First published in Latin, it consisted of more than 1,600 pages. The book, now published in English for the first time, is a favorite of homeschoolers and those who take ancient history seriously.

Matt Barber, WND 83 Comments [1/13/2011 4:38:35 AM]
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Amanda

Too bad people in the 1600's knew absolutely nothing about science or ancient history.

1/13/2011 4:40:33 AM

whatever

"The book, now published in English for the first time, is a favorite of homeschoolers"...

That's all I need to know. OK, move on, nothing to see here...

1/13/2011 5:01:52 AM

Doctor Whom

Bah. Everyone knows that the greatest history book ever written is the Ramayana.

1/13/2011 5:02:47 AM

Quantum Mechanic

'Most people would say: "Nobody knows."'

Most people in your mental ward maybe, all geologists say you're full of shit.

1/13/2011 5:10:09 AM

Percy Q. Shunn

BAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

1/13/2011 5:12:14 AM

Swede

Ancient history starts way before 4004 B.C.

"the book frequently described as the greatest history book ever written"
Frequently described, by whom?
What you and your little Bible study group say amongst yourselves doesn't count.
And; if it's so great and such a favorite, why hasn't anyone bothered to translate it to English before this?

In 1650 they barely knew that the Earth revolves around the Sun.
They certainly didn't know enough geology and cosmology to determine the age of the world.

1/13/2011 5:26:31 AM

Paler_Face

How old is the world?

About 4.5 billion years, accordnig to actual geologists.

Most people would say: "Nobody knows."

I blame the educational system. Currently, in America, it's a system where a creationist dentist can fuck up the education of children across america for a decade.

But the author of the book frequently described as the greatest history book ever written, said the world was created Oct. 23, 4004 B.C. – making it exactly 6,014 next month.

'The Demon Haunted World' says no such thing.
... Oh, you mean the bible. It doesn't say that either.
Bishop Usher just added the 'begats' in the bible, and came up with that number. He was wrong.
Today, no 'honest' theologian takes any part of Genesis literally, and most of the rest of the bible is also taken with a considerable amount of salt.

In the 1650s, an Anglican bishop named James Ussher published his "Annals of the World," subtitled, "The Origin of Time, and Continued to the Beginning of the Emperor Vespasian's Reign and the Total Destruction and Abolition of the Temple and Commonwealth of the Jews."

So this bishop was a jew-hater. No big surprise there, as the catholic dogma pointed to the jews as 'christ-killers'.

First published in Latin, it consisted of more than 1,600 pages. The book, now published in English for the first time, is a favorite of homeschoolers and those who take ancient history seriously.

*facepalm*

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*Headdesk*

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*Headdesk**Headdesk**Headdesk**Headdesk**Headdesk**Headdesk**Headdesk**Headdesk**Headdesk*




... Ow...

1/13/2011 5:58:08 AM

Brendan Rizzo

And Ussher's chronology was never accepted unanimously even in his own time. The only reason you fundies believe it is absolute truth is because it used to be published as an appendix in certain printings of the King James Bible-- all before the science of geology was formalized, so people at the time really didn't know better. Now, we do know better. You should too.

1/13/2011 6:00:30 AM

JonathanE

Good old Schofield Bible index. The source for the rapture, YEC, 4004 BC creation date, and long discredited. Some things just hang around like a bad smell.

1/13/2011 6:02:42 AM

Godless heathen

So.... The world began 1000ish years after recorded history then?

1/13/2011 6:04:59 AM

Anon

One of the many brilliant satirical articles of The Onion:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/sumerians-look-on-in-confusion-as-god-creates-worl,2879/

The world was created in 4004 BC? The Sumerians would like to have a word with you ...

1/13/2011 6:06:21 AM

Raised by Horses

I pity your children. They're not just going to miss out on education, they're actively going to receive anti-education.

1/13/2011 6:15:02 AM

Doubting Thomas

Um, how would they know the exact date since dates weren't invented yet, and there's nowhere in the bible that narrows it down that specifically? And if you're getting that specific, why not narrow it down to time of day?

1/13/2011 6:25:44 AM

jas43

its evil to correctly date the earth based on science

but considering an old book as definitively true, then dating our planet based on that makes you seems like a

fucking retard.


1/13/2011 6:34:00 AM

aaa

And finally, history majors have their own "Plan 9 from outer space".

1/13/2011 6:34:34 AM

Brianisha

Erm, If most people say nobody knows how old the world is, neither should you! Also, the Hindu religion dates back 10,000 years or more, making you look really, really stupid.

1/13/2011 6:35:18 AM

Mister Spak

The Harry Potter books have more pages than that, and I'll bet more children have read them than have read your fairy tale.

1/13/2011 6:37:30 AM



Originally posted by Matt Barber

“But the author of the book frequently described as the greatest history book ever…”

Frequently described as such by whom?

Hey! Lots o’ folks describe The Godfather as the Greatest Movie Ever. So it must be true.


1/13/2011 7:01:43 AM

Xotan


So Ussher of Armagh is now the author of the book, IOW, he's God!

1/13/2011 7:08:40 AM

Horsefeathers

"How old is the world? Most people would say: "Nobody knows.""

No. Most people would not say this as it's a pretty well established fact how old the Earth is.

"But the author of the book frequently described as the greatest history book ever written, said the world was created Oct. 23, 4004 B.C. – making it exactly 6,014 next month."

The Babble was not authored by god. The Babble gives no such date. The Babble is wrong about damn near everything it claims anyway so even if it did state this it would still be fucking wrong.

"The book, now published in English for the first time, is a favorite of homeschoolers and those who take ancient history seriously."

Those who take ancient history seriously study it at serious institutions which are accredited and teach topics, concepts and information which has been vetted by the academic community.

They don't read a 350+ year old book that's obviously full of shit and they don't read a mish-mash of ancient fairy tales and call it history.

1/13/2011 7:31:10 AM

John

And all those distant galaxies are only 15 light-years away due to a massive geocentric Star-Trek type "space warp". They look tiny because they're actually tiny!

1/13/2011 7:41:04 AM

WWWWolf

Okay, a slight bit of irony: when you hear a fundie say "greatest history book ever written", you are already thinking that they're referring to the Bible - which is also the greatest science book ever written, obviously.

This is because you know that the Fundies keep saying that they don't trust any other source of information. If it isn't in the King James Version, they say, it isn't the Truth.

And then you hear that they're actually referring to James Ussher's work as the Greatest History Book Ever Written.

Folks, if you want to get a rare glimpse of a Biblical Literalist with the proverbial smoking gun in the hand, look no further than this comment!

1/13/2011 7:50:57 AM

TGRwulf

Considering the title and that homeschoolers love it, I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say that the book isn't very accurate.

1/13/2011 8:02:54 AM

Anon-e-moose

"How old is the world? Most people would say: "Nobody knows."

4.5 billion years. Next question.

@Mister Spak

"The Harry Potter books have more pages than that, and I'll bet more children have read them than have read your fairy tale."

Including the First Children. Sasha & Malia Obama are known to be big "Harry Potter" fans. JK Rowling has indeed opened a new and infinitely wide vista of imagination-expanding (and educational) possibilities to this & new generations, of the priceless treasure that is literature.

And thinking for yourself.

(emphasis added):

'The good life is one inspired by love and guided by knowledge.'

-Bertrand Russell

After all, it's by knowledge given to me in school via books - that impart facts based on evidence, and not Biblical lies - that I know the age of the Earth, Matt.

1/13/2011 8:19:51 AM

name

Most people would look up the age of Earth and say that it's about 4.5 billion years old.

1/13/2011 8:27:34 AM
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