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As a King James Bible believer, I have no problem with geocentricity.

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In essence, it appears that satellites and related calculations aren't in themselves sufficient to distinguish between either geocentricity or heliocentricity. Either approach, for example, can be used to justify the 'slingshot effect' - though it is interesting that spacecraft orbits for other planets are calculated using the Earth, not the sun, as the centre of the coordinates. The implication is that the Earth is the centre of the planetary system.

alanorei, Frank Chalk 71 Comments [1/14/2011 4:30:07 AM]
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Argle Bargle

That's because the satellites are orbiting the earth, you knucklehead.

I really hope this is a poe/troll. Denying that the earth revolves around the sun is the height of batshittery.

1/14/2011 5:01:14 AM

Mister Spak

As a King James bible believer, you must continue to take your meds.

1/14/2011 5:16:12 AM



If I'm in Manchester, and someone asks me how far it is to Bolton I don't give them the position of Bolton relative to London. If we're on Earth, and we have a craft orbiting Mars, it makes sense to define its position relative to ourselves instead of adding extra layers of calculations by defining it relative to the Sun.

1/14/2011 5:18:09 AM

erlando

Basic astronomy fail.

1/14/2011 5:45:04 AM

Itachirumon

I really have to ask how it's possible people could be so effin' stupid? I mean... I realize their parents succeeded at de-educating them so they have the knowledge of a common rock but hasn't someone in a position of power and respect ever come out and you know....SHAMED THEM?! Said "Umm...I'm sorry, it doesn't work like that, it works like this" I guess either they dismiss the person as a lying liberal or they're so effing stupid that they don't realize they should be ashamed of their own stupidity. I'm not sure which one's scarier

1/14/2011 5:54:08 AM

nutbunny

"As a King James Bible believer, I have no problem with geocentricity"

King James Bible Believer = Willfully ignorant individual

1/14/2011 5:54:41 AM

Mrs. Antichrist

I have no problem with geocentricity.

How very sad for you.

1/14/2011 6:06:58 AM

Table Rock

though it is interesting that spacecraft orbits for other planets are calculated using the Earth, not the sun, as the centre of the coordinates. The implication is that the Earth is the centre of the planetary system.

That's because the spacecraft are being launched from the Earth, not the Sun. It's usually best to use your starting point as your initial frame of reference.

And when I'm driving, I use I-79 as my reference. That doesn't make I-79 the center of the universe.

1/14/2011 6:19:46 AM

TGRwulf

Did you ever stop to think that maybe it's because we LIVE on the Earth you fucking moron?

1/14/2011 6:34:47 AM

Prager

Earth as the centre of the planetary system? No, that would be the sun. You know...that big ball of light in sky.

1/14/2011 6:38:30 AM

Doubting Thomas

Well, if God were going to design the earth specifically so man could live on it, why wouldn't he put it at the center of the universe? But seeing as how there's no evidence for either God or geocentrism, and plenty of evidence to the contrary, they're both ridiculous ideas.

I don't know why they stop at geocentrism, though, instead of going for the entire biblical view of the world. That is, a flat earth surrounded by water, with a domed sky with a "firmament" above it with floodgates which open and let the waters above fall to the ground as rain, and with the sun, moon, and stars hanging in the sky between the ground and the firmament. If you're really going to use the bible as a science book, this is what you'd believe.

1/14/2011 6:45:22 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Hey, we haven't gotten an alanorei quote in a while. Isn't he that racist bastard?

Anyway, I'm seriously beginning to believe that there is not a single Young Earth Creationist who is not also a geocentrist, considering the sheer number of geocentrists who have been quoted here recently. The ones who aren't geocentrists are just neglecting to mention that so that they won't be laughed out of society and unable to pervert the education standards of whichever country they live in.

1/14/2011 7:05:44 AM

gaijinlaw

it is interesting that spacecraft orbits for other planets are calculated using the Earth, not the sun, as the centre of the coordinates. The implication is that the Earth is the centre of the planetary system


I'm no expert, and I think others have assumed he's referring to satellites above the Earth, but "spacecraft orbits for other planets" makes me think this is "not even wrong."

1/14/2011 7:16:38 AM

Anon-e-moose

"In essence, it appears that satellites and related calculations aren't in themselves sufficient to distinguish between either geocentricity or heliocentricity. Either approach, for example, can be used to justify the 'slingshot effect' - though it is interesting that spacecraft orbits for other planets are calculated using the Earth, not the sun, as the centre of the coordinates. The implication is that the Earth is the centre of the planetary system."

So... NASA rejected your job application eh, alanorei?

Can't imagine why...!

1/14/2011 7:24:36 AM

Alleyprowler

Oooh, somebody learned some sciencey-sounding words!

1/14/2011 7:45:54 AM

Alex

As biblical literalism is pushed to ever more ludicrous level, it's inevitable the one must come to the belief in a geocentric view. One must also come to a flat earth view, since this that's the better "literal" reading.

I can hardly wait.

P.S. What a time to be alive!

1/14/2011 7:47:45 AM

John

spacecraft orbits for other planets are calculated using the Earth, not the sun, as the centre of the coordinates.

Anyone with a year or so of college math can rework the formulas for the motion of the planets to shift the mathematical origin from the sun to the earth. What you can't do, is shift the origin to the earth and still have the planets obey the laws of gravity and motion. Nor can you explain stellar parallax unless you imagine the stars are wandering back and forth once a year.

1/14/2011 7:54:51 AM

Canadia

You've no problems with geocentricity, but you certainly have problems in general.

1/14/2011 7:55:02 AM

Doctor Whom

As a King James Bible believer, I have no problem with the striped-stick theory of inheritance or the idea that God stores snow and hail in a heavenly fridge for the time of trouble.

1/14/2011 7:59:23 AM

farpadokly

Geocentricity: Sun goes round earth. WRONG. Heliocentricity: Earth goes round sun. RIGHT.

1/14/2011 8:03:28 AM

aaa

This guy finds all sorts of new ways to be a big bell-end.

1/14/2011 8:12:08 AM

U

Interesting thing for most astronomer.
Neither is technically right.
Both earth and sun revolves around their center of gravity (which, thanks to the sun MASSIVE mass, resides very close to the center of the sun). Which means both bodies are rotating about each other (with earth doing most of the moving because its lighter).
In short, heliocentricity and geocentricity is not something astronomers tend to care. Is that in almost ALL orbital calculation of planetary bodies, it's much easier to treat the obscenely massive body as a center.

1/14/2011 8:34:00 AM

breakerslion

You don't have the math.

1/14/2011 9:12:56 AM

Anon

We could do everything in geocentric coordinates. But then the math for everything beyond Earth orbit would be harder. Since the zero point of our coordinate system is arbitrary, we can use whichever one is most convenient. Why is this hard to understand?

1/14/2011 9:19:28 AM

jas43

nope still wrong.

our planet isnt the fucking center of the universe and your god is a liar.

wake up.

1/14/2011 9:25:54 AM
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