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Modern science is no longer a practice, but a religious belief system. Many scientific methods and theories have been defeated and proven wrong, such as carbon 14 dating, macro-evolution, darwinism, and fossilization time requirements. However, if a professor comes out and says that, he will lose his pension, tenure and good standing in the scientific community, and be labeled a wacko. One cannot advance in science without discovering God, if even by accident. I live in Colorado, and there is evidence of Noah's flood everywhere. You can still find sea shells in the mountains. You can also find signs of water damage and erosion up there as well. My wife lived in a farming community for most of her life, and she told me about the many sea shells her and her siblings would find in the corn field. The funny thing is, when clams die, their mouths open. These are all closed, meaning they died in an aquatic event that happened very quickly and violently, like say...a worldwide cataclysmic flood.

Science has long known about all that the bible has been telling us. Bones of giants are found all over the world all the time. You never hear about it, because if a scientist announces this type of discovery, it supports what the bible says about there being giants in ancient times, and they could lose credibility in the scientific community.
Science has become a religion.

Not Perfect, But Forgiven, Rapture Ready 81 Comments [1/16/2011 6:10:50 AM]
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Concerned Brit

Interesting, why would a flood kill aquatic creatures rapidly?

1/16/2011 6:19:54 AM

Canadia

If science had become a religion, wouldn't they be blindly accepting all of these supposed 'finds' without any evidence?

1/16/2011 6:51:33 AM

Mudak

All right: I'll bite. Even granting you the seashells claim, how can you be sure that that the flood proven by them is that of Noah?

1/16/2011 6:59:42 AM

Nithing

Haha this guy has no clue how hard it is to lose tenure.

There are professors still on the payroll with convictions for sexually harrasing students, open white supremists, Al Quedia-praisers, black nationalists, creationists and believers in every kind of junk science imaginable.

A felony is generally required to actually dismiss a prof with tenure.

1/16/2011 7:02:16 AM

Greenworld

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1/16/2011 7:15:08 AM

Greenworld

Just...
Wow.

1/16/2011 7:16:38 AM

Gawd

Just complete bullshit.

1/16/2011 7:46:30 AM

jas43

you're wrong and batshit delusional.

which god did all that?

oh your god?

of course.

intelligence fail.

1/16/2011 7:52:18 AM

TGRwulf

So water killed aquatic creatures? Very interesting theory numbnutz. Do go on.

1/16/2011 8:05:01 AM

Justanotheratheist

These bones of giants that are found all over the world all the time - let me be the first to say it:

Citation fucking seriously needed.

1/16/2011 8:15:31 AM

Xotan

'Not Perfect' - what a perfect pseudo!

1/16/2011 8:22:46 AM

John

Many scientific methods and theories have been defeated and proven wrong, such as carbon 14 dating, macro-evolution, darwinism, and fossilization time requirements.

It's funny how creationists accept that C14 dating works whenever we have actual verifiable dates to compare it to, like tree rings or Chinese artifacts; but as soon as we try to date something by C14 alone and there's no independent dating to embarrass the creationists, then all of a sudden it stops working!

BTW, there's no "scientific theory" about how long it takes something to fossilize. It can happen in a few months under the right conditions. It may have happened in a few months with dinosaur fossils, for all we know. That doesn't mean it just happened a few months ago.

1/16/2011 8:36:03 AM



Carbon 14 is alive and kicking. By the way, think about that before typing in the computer, right?

1/16/2011 8:36:15 AM

DevilsChaplain

Science is now a religion! Black is east, up is white!

1/16/2011 8:56:03 AM



"Many scientific methods and theories have been defeated and proven wrong, such as carbon 14 dating, macro-evolution, darwinism, and fossilization time requirements."

[citation needed]

@ Concerned Brit
I think the claim is that the sudden influx of water would have effectively desalinated the ocean. I don't know if that is plausible, but it's the fundie rationalization.

1/16/2011 9:15:03 AM

JonnyTruant

I think bones of giants would be proof positive that the world was once ruled by Titans who were thrown down by Zeus and the Olympic gods.

BTW science method is the same no matter the branch of science, be it the science that cured your child of pneumonia or the science that allows you to spout nonsense online, or even the science that describes how speciation occurs. It's remarkable good about cleaning up it's own failures and when a theory is disproven or it is forced to be modified, the scientist who provides the data and proof is usually honored as long as his method is clear and able to be reproduced. There is nothing of faith about science, therefore it cannot be referred to as religion.

Read up a bit on plate tectonics and the early development of the continents.

1/16/2011 9:26:50 AM

Doubting Thomas

Many scientific methods and theories have been defeated and proven wrong, such as carbon 14 dating, macro-evolution, darwinism, and fossilization time requirements.

Just claiming that these sciences are false doesn't make it so.

One cannot advance in science without discovering God, if even by accident.

You really have to be joking. If this were true, then why do most scientists not believe that God exists? And why is there no solid proof of God existing?

Bones of giants are found all over the world all the time.

Prove it. If these fossils are being "found all over the world all the time," then why hasn't anyone ever heard about it?

You never hear about it, because if a scientist announces this type of discovery, it supports what the bible says about there being giants in ancient times, and they could lose credibility in the scientific community.

Ah yes, the old "There's tons of evidence but it's being suppressed" idea. Or, as it's also known, "I know it's true but I just can't prove it." I call bullshit. What you read on creationist websites, or what Kent Hovind says, is not reliable.

1/16/2011 9:29:47 AM

Ken

So you're calling Science manipulative and deceitful and then calling it Religion?

Hmm...

1/16/2011 9:34:00 AM

louislois

By "Not Perfect", I'm certain you mean your intellect, right?

1/16/2011 10:14:17 AM



Yeah maybe a worldwide cataclysmic flood killed those clams. Or possibly an earthquake. Or a submarine landslide. Or severe storms. You know, things that we can be sure can happen as opposed to a pretty much impossible scenario we have not a shred of evidence to support.

1/16/2011 10:21:03 AM

dionysus

Many scientific methods and theories have been defeated and proven wrong

It's funny how only creationists seem to think that. Independent scientists across almost every nation as members of almost every religion and political ideology overwhelmingly agree to the current standing theories.

such as carbon 14 dating

That's physics, bitch. You deny C14 dating, you deny physics.

macro-evolution, darwinism

Those two are part of the same theory which is called the Theory of Evolution and this is confirmed by paleontology, genetics, anatomy, medicine, and of course biology both macro and micro. AND speciation has been observed both in the wild and in the lab.

fossilization time requirements

Creationists don't seem to understand that different minerals and minerals in different environments fossilize at different rates.

However, if a professor comes out and says that, he will lose his pension, tenure and good standing in the scientific community, and be labeled a wacko.

You're damn right he'll be called a wacko and lose his credibility and rightfully so. Just like a scientist that claims that there's a multi-national, multi-religious scientific conspiracy against geocentrism. You can't just spout unproven or debunked ideas and try to poison the well of science by accusing all other scientists of deliberately lying and still expect to be respected.

One cannot advance in science without discovering God

We've been doing well so far. In fact, once we stopped using god to explain everything we gained more insight and knowledge.

You can still find sea shells in the mountains. You can also find signs of water damage and erosion up there as well.

Right, and if you knew anything about geology you'd realize that our current mountains weren't always mountains.

The funny thing is, when clams die, their mouths open. These are all closed, meaning they died in an aquatic event that happened very quickly and violently, like say...a worldwide cataclysmic flood.

The funny thing is that you're dead wrong. Clams die in all sorts of positions but even if you were right, a quick death isn't evidence of a global flood. However, I'd like to ask how is it that ANY saltwater creatures survived the flood? I know some creatures like the bull shark can do just fine in freshwater but tropical fish are not going to survive such a catastrophic decrease in salinity. And inversely, the mixing of seawater with freshwater would kill off a number freshwater fish species. Why is it that most of our current fish species aren't extinct?

Bones of giants are found all over the world all the time.

And? Even assuming that you're not referring to the obvious hoaxes and admitted photoshopped pictures of 20 and 30 foot giants the existence of very tall people doesn't prove anything other than the existence of pituitary disorders.

You never hear about it, because if a scientist announces this type of discovery, it supports what the bible says about there being giants in ancient times, and they could lose credibility in the scientific community.

There are giants even in modern times:



And why would scientists want to parade around the remains of people with disorders anyway? What purpose would that serve?

1/16/2011 10:28:31 AM

aaa

I don't think you understand what erosion is.

1/16/2011 10:52:21 AM

Canadiest

You do know you are suggesting science is now a religion because it lies and hides things from the public?

1/16/2011 10:58:13 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Ya lost me at the first sentence. No, no, and NO. This is fractally wrong. Nothing you mention contradicts evolution.

And I so like your screen name. So it seems that you believe that you will be forgiven for everything you do, even in the future, even though that is a theological impossibility. Don't Christians believe that forgiveness is impossible without genuine repentance, and genuine repentance cannot be preemptive, because if you genuinely repented of something you had not yet done, you would never do it in the first place?

Lying for Jesus is still lying. Lying about Jesus is also still lying. Since you have not repented of your lies, you have no guarantee of forgiveness even if Jesus is actually the Son of God. Think about that, long and hard.

1/16/2011 10:58:28 AM

Sisyphus

Oh dear dog! What is in the water that these people drink?

I face palmed so hard I've got a bruise!

1/16/2011 11:01:21 AM
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