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[re: implicit incest in creationist account of early human history]

It seems that you want to make this "incest" out to be something bad. You think that the fact that it is incest should be noted in the article, but I've never disagreed with mentioning that it occurred, but object to putting it in a way that suggests that there was something wrong with it. Even just the use of the word "incest", although technically correct, is problematic because of the connotations surrounding the term. As far as putting in bits that aren't in the account is concerned, I previously pointed out that you were doing that anyway. The bits that explain that incest wasn't a problem come directly from what you want to do—applying logic to the accounts, but unlike you, I don't come with the presupposition that they are mythological stories that therefore must have problems.

Philip J. Rayment, Conservapedia, Talk:Garden of Eden 59 Comments [1/22/2011 10:54:23 AM]
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Mister Spak

I don't come with the presupposition that your fairy tales are true that therefore must take precedence over observable reality.

1/24/2011 6:26:05 AM

nutbunny

He's right. Nothing wrong with a little sexy twin brother action, hey, hey, amirite?

As far as I'm concerned if you want to get it on with daddy or grandpa it's all cool as long as you're both consenting adults.

[The bits that explain that incest wasn't a problem come directly from what you want to do—applying logic to the accounts]

Logic applied to problem solving is generally thought to be a good thing.

I don't come with the presupposition that they are true stories that therefore must have authority.

1/24/2011 8:16:31 AM

breakerslion

Why the story of Lot is in the Bible and the story of Daniel and the Dragon is not.

Once upon a time, a bunch of unscrupulous manipulators of the masses decided that they needed an out if they were ever caught screwing a family member. Quoting "Lot" furnished this by exemplifying blaming the victim.

At the same time, they decided that the story of Daniel and the Dragon gave away too many hints about how their scam worked. It begged the question, how could Daniel be so sure he wasn't dealing with a "fallen angel" or other supernatural being?

The moral of the story:

Many bits of the Bible are not mythological stories and were never intended for mass consumption. They were a veiled how-to manual for running a successful religious scam, taught to initiates.

The End.

1/24/2011 8:33:05 AM

Anon-e-moose

"It seems that you want to make this "incest" out to be something bad."

So you think incest isn't bad, eh Phil? Okay then, fatherfucker.

List! What is yon sound in the distance? Why it's the sound of 'Duelling Banjos', with piggy-like squeals adding a delightful accompaniment; if you listen carefully, you can also hear the rhythmic cadence of squeaking trailer suspensions as they rock back & forth.

Certainly explains the existence of fundies then. Phyllis & Andy Schaftafly. Just throwing that one out there.

XP

(*Starts distributing bottles of Brain Bleach & Brillo Pads to those in FSTDT who want them*)

(*Goes off, whistling 'I'm My Own Grandpa'*)

@Itachirumon

"HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY!!! The only incest I want to hear about is brother/brother incest in animes"

"Panty and Stocking (with Garterbelt)". Episode 12. ScantyxKneesocks. Goat's milk. Just sayin'.

~_^ X3 :9

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@Toothygrin

"o/~ Shut your fucking face, unclefucka!"

That very same Terrance & Philip song has been used in a "Panty & Stocking"-based AMV.

1/24/2011 8:35:30 AM

Toothygrin

o/~ Shut your fucking face, unclefucka! Yer an uncle fucka, I must say We fucked your uncle yesterday!
o/~






1/24/2011 10:19:15 AM

vaiyt

It seems you want to show that, by our own logic, our "account" involves incest. You think that, since we treat incest as wrong everywhere else, we should do so here, but it isn't because I say so. Incest is icky and I won't have it. I decided that incest was not a problem, so I'm handwaving it because I start from the premise that the biblical story is perfect.

1/24/2011 5:51:25 PM

Anon-e-moose

Here are examples of what happens when two people who are genetically varied (i.e. completely unrelated) get together:



George Clooney. Voted Sexiest Man Alive. Twice.



Angelina Jolie. And a prime example of what happens when mixed races get together:



Halle Berry. Need I say more? Annihilated argument much, inferior subhuman racists?

@vaiyt

"Incest is icky and I won't have it."

And to prove your point, here is an example of Philip's claim that incest isn't 'wrong':



Yew keep pickin' that banjo, boy. And if you're extra good, y'all can have seconds of biscuits-n-gravy, while yer wife an' sister gets ya a beer whilst y'watch ASSCAR an' WWE, boy.

..yew shore do have a purty mouth, boy.

>:D

1/25/2011 10:40:46 AM



Dude, it's not "incest," it's incest. The quotation marks imply that you are mocking for using improper terminology but the terminology is correct. Adam and Eve fucked and had Cain and Able who then had to fuck their mother in order for the species to proceed. That's incest.



Ew.

1/27/2011 12:44:36 PM

Passerby

If there was a passage in the Bible that read:

A is a tomato
B is a wad of cotton
C is your grandma
A is also your grandma

And all three are made of cheese.

They would find a way to believe it.

If the bible were true everyone would have the exact same DNA from being so unimaginably inbred. There would be no variations of race, and how the hell did everyone spread all over the planet? Adam doesn't appear anywhere in Mesopotamian or Egyptian history, and according to the bible he'd have been alive and kicking at that point. Also, God supposedly spoke directly to EVERYONE but his religion sort of completely died out.

But no... A B and C are all true at the same time.

2/10/2011 2:45:31 PM
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