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Tennessee is not where I wanna be. Talk about a history revisionist.
1/28/2011 10:51:22 PM
Two things, first the founding fathers did do all the things in the last line, except for maybe being hypocrites., but everyone is at at least one point in life.
the second thing is to Anarkist78.
Every time I read the name Pol Pot, I hear Pulpit, coincidence?
1/28/2011 10:54:41 PM
I've just had a container load of irony meters explode.
Who can I bill?
1/29/2011 12:05:08 AM
Because any historical figure is ruined if they're not absolutely perfect according to the standards of a society that exists 200 years after their deaths.
1/29/2011 1:13:40 AM
It's strange how rightwing nationalism echoes religious fundamentalism; you have a group of people (Founding Fathers, Jesus and his disciples, Mohammed and the first Caliphs), a text (Constitution, Bible, Koran), and these people and texts are not to be questioned and interpreted with the utmost strictness. Here we see the apotheosis of the Founders, and a move away from facing the facts about them, as though they were demi-gods and not humans.
1/29/2011 1:50:41 AM
Typical Tea-tard tactics.. keep people ignorant. That would work if you didn't visit Thomas Jefferson's place and see the slave quarters, and check the lineage of the children he fathered on those slaves.
As for intruding on the Native Americans, it amuses me you are that fucking stupid.
1/29/2011 2:26:32 AM
...and then one day all the injuns just up and left and went on holiday and never came back, and a bunch of black people came over from Africa to help us with our cotton...then there was 'Merica, isn't 'Merica wonderful?
1/29/2011 4:17:42 AM
Because slavery didn't exist until 1808, and people in power constitute the majority of a society. Must be Backwards Day again.
1/29/2011 5:25:38 AM
Ever heard of Johnson vs M'Intosh? Neither had I until I started checking on your post.
What about the Civilising of the Native Americans proposed by Knox and Washington? Or the Northwest Indian War? Those I had heard of and I am a Brit.
I agree that the FFs were probably against slavery, just not then (with the possible exception of ?Madison?)
1/29/2011 6:38:37 AM
It's strange how rightwing nationalism echoes religious fundamentalism; you have a group of people (Founding Fathers, Jesus and his disciples, Mohammed and the first Caliphs), a text (Constitution, Bible, Koran), and these people and texts are not to be questioned and interpreted with the utmost strictness. Here we see the apotheosis of the Founders, and a move away from facing the facts about them, as though they were demi-gods and not humans. <<
That was my question: why is there a cult of the founders of the USA? Especially when those people themselves would have immediately denied such a thing.
1/29/2011 9:27:08 AM
Not surprised by this. These Tea Partiers are just like the fundies. Picking what they want out of their Bibles and the Constitution and completely ignoring the bad shit in both of them.
Our God and Founding Fathers can do no wrong! You're taking them out of context you Commie Socialist Nazi!
I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of these Tea Partiers were fundies.
1/29/2011 9:31:10 AM
History, who needs it? Unless it's bible history.
'History is more or less bunk'
-Henry Ford (Founder of Ford Motors, and a hideous anti-Semite; a Hitler-lover too)
On the other hand...:
'History will be kind to me - for I intend to write it'
-Winston Churchill (and he did! His is one of the definitive histories of the early-mid 20th Century)
"American Exceptionalism. US mythology at it's "finest"...."
And more proof that the Religious Right, Neocons, and especially Teabaggers in this case, know little to nothing about the wider world around them:
Sudan (a self-determined South, as per a new peace treaty recently; effectively a new country). And what about Timor-Leste (formerly East Timor)? Countries far younger than you. Now that's exceptional.
1/29/2011 12:42:46 PM
Taxes = Big gov't, tyranny.
Historical Revisionism = Small gov't, liberty.
This is what Teabaggers actually believe.
1/29/2011 1:28:42 PM
@ physalis17 --
I think most of the Teabaggers are Christian fundies, Randroid fundies, or both.
1/29/2011 3:07:32 PM
This is just too funny. They actually think that stuff is all made up? Should this be in CSTDT then, since they believe this is a liberal Muslim atheist (TM) plot to discredit America?
Anyway, I hope they lose. I don't consider anywhere where fundies have power and influence part of America anyway, but I'd at least like to minimize the area which I have excised from my country. ;)
1/29/2011 3:22:57 PM
It makes sense that teabaggers want to do this because conservatives worship the founding fathers almost as much as they do God & Jesus. And they're probably just tired of those pesky facts getting in the way of their idea of what the founding fathers really wanted.
1/29/2011 8:11:22 PM
Yeah, fuck the facts, let's just make shit up. After all, history is in the past, who cares?
Fuck 'em all. Altering history is a crime against humanity.
1/29/2011 8:29:23 PM
What is it with fundies, it is like they want their country to self destruct?
1/30/2011 3:54:14 AM
Raised by Horses
Once again, Lord Russell sums things up nicely:
"No nation was ever so virtuous as each believes itself, and none was ever so wicked as each believes the other."
1/30/2011 11:39:34 PM
Fascism always has to have a grand national mythology, and in a new(er) country like America's case, deification of our founders is needed. I don't see how my state's Tea Partiers aren't fascist here.
Speaking of all this stuff being put into textbooks, you'd basically have the textbooks at the Christian school I went to, which glossed over all the bad things the founders did, and put them up on a pedestal, portraying them as great, godly Christian men. Said textbook also deified ol' Ronnie Raygun.
6/5/2012 7:47:32 PM
Well, they have been denying Science for quite some time.
Based on many of the submissions to this very site, they don't have a lot of time for the English language either.
I can hardly be suprised that they are now going after History.
One presumes that there will be a call for a New Math or Geography soon.
6/5/2012 8:49:31 PM
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