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A littlle advice to young Atheists… A young man who wishes to remain a sound Atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. There are traps everywhere. Bibles laid open, millions of surprises, fine nets and stratagems. God is, in a way, very unscrupulous. You may argue against God, but answer me this: if the universe seems so cruel and unjust, how did you get this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What are you comparing this universe with when you call it unjust? You will never know how much you believe something until it is a matter of life and death. If you think of this world as a place intended simply for our happiness, and intellectual freedom you find it quite intolerable: think of it as a place of training and correction and it’s not so bad.

Leave A Mark, Leave a Mark 89 Comments [1/29/2011 4:51:51 AM]
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Submitted By: SaynaTheSpiffy
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dionysus

There are traps everywhere. Bibles laid open, millions of surprises, fine nets and stratagems.

Oh those blasted sneaky Christians! I knew that Bible lying under a tree was suspicious and my suspicions are now confirmed. And since you were nice enough to offer advice, I'll give you some too: if you really want to catch a lot of atheists you want to use chick tracts as bait instead because those are so hilarious that no atheist can resist them.

1/30/2011 10:18:43 AM

Mycoid Mike

So you're saying your religion promulgates itself through manipulation and trickery? And that we should join because it will make us blind to the world's ills?

NO SALE!

1/30/2011 2:52:05 PM

Sasha

It's like they think the bible has magical powers in and of itself. It's just a collection of myths and fairy tales, no better than Bulfinch's Mythology.

1/30/2011 5:31:50 PM

nazani14

Behavioral science fail. Even my cats have a sense of injustice.

1/30/2011 6:01:07 PM

Dr. Steve Brule

"if the universe seems so cruel and unjust, how did you get this idea of just and unjust?

Because it is a socially engineered concept that society teaches us as children. Just like 'race,' 'gender,' and 'freedom.' At the end of the day they are all just made up concepts that, thanks to the Thomas Theorem, is a part of life.

1/31/2011 2:25:13 AM

sErgEantaEgis

I've read the Bible, when you refer to the story, it's one of the most awesome book I've read, but the rest is utter bullshit.

1/31/2011 5:48:56 AM

Mister Spak

"What are you comparing this universe with when you call it unjust? "

With one run by atheists.

1/31/2011 8:51:43 AM

GodotIsWaiting4U

Justice is a human convention, functional but not supernatural. We compare the universe to our concept of justice, and it does not hold up.

"You will never know how much you believe something until it is a matter of life and death."

Is that a threat?

1/31/2011 9:07:42 AM

Sayna

Average Guy @ #1250388
YES. That's what I couldn't stand about this guy.

2/3/2011 2:45:42 AM

The Duelist

You're just regurgitating the banal bullshit of C.S. Lewis, pal--even when you say stupid shit, you're not original.

2/3/2011 5:40:35 PM

BrianX

This guy is one bleak and miserable little fuck. Someone get him some lithium, stat.

2/3/2011 7:23:52 PM

Angua

I've read sections of the Bible. I've read the Gospels, Revelation, Esther, Ecclesiasties, Job.

I'd read bits and pieces, but I'd never read the thing as a whole. I always felt bad about never having read the whole thing all the way through. So I started last summer. I'm on the book Judges now.

There are only so many descriptions of the arc of the covenant you can take before you say, "Screw this, I could be reading something -- anything -- else right now!"

At this rate it'll be several years yet before I finish the thing. I didn't realize that it would be so boring.

Though I liked the bit about Balaam and his donkey, that was entertaining. I read it out loud to my younger brother. We got at least several minutes worth of laughter out of that.

2/21/2011 4:38:04 AM

JB Mason

"a place of training and correction"

You mean a prison?

5/20/2011 3:00:02 PM

Watergirl909

I got my idea of just and unjust via the logical conclusion that people deserve to be happy unless they deprive innocent people of happiness. Anything that does not harm others, including prostitution, gay marriage, atheism, swearing on TV, lolicon (fictional, not cp), meat, dairy and anything else you can think of that harms nobody should be allowed. I am comparing this universe to my personal utopia in my mind.

8/27/2011 6:45:33 PM
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