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They are as Christian as you are. Moreover, without them, you wouldn't exist. By the way, repeat with me, where was JESUS martyred?, in a cross, if I remember well.
2/6/2011 5:40:46 AM
The Grey Blob
All hail retards! We need to establish a world wide retardocracy. And for our head, let us have the retarded Fundie God of Insanity. Heil retards!
2/6/2011 5:54:44 AM
So let me see if I get this: people who carry a christian symbol around with them every day are not christians, and by extrapolation, people who do not carry around a christian symbol are...
2/6/2011 5:56:40 AM
Seems a bit odd to get bent out of shape over crucifixes and rosaries, but not to insist on a capital-H 'Him' when referring to God.
2/6/2011 6:02:24 AM
As long as it is kept private, and outside of public grounds, everybody can have as many idols as one wishes.
Some people idolize Johnny Depp.
Other people idolize Elvis.
Even other people idolize Jesus.
Everybody can idolize what makes him happy. As long as you don't try to shove it down other peoples throats.
2/6/2011 6:10:21 AM
seems to me that it must have been Gawd's will that Jeebus got nailed to a tree, after all, your Gawd is omnipotent and omniscient. surely some "earthly ruler" could not possibly defeat his will. right?
2/6/2011 6:13:03 AM
ohh johnny, make me a believer!!!
sorry...(hangs head in shame)
2/6/2011 6:20:35 AM
"these are beads that are very similar to an item muslimes use"
"The man on a t-shaped wooden sacrificial altar is a nod to the defeat of God's will by the devil"
(As if carrying around just the 'sacrificial altar' is somehow better than the 'altar' with Christ crucified? Sheesh.)
2/6/2011 6:37:20 AM
I don't believe muslimes use rosaries. Some people in muslime countries use worry beads, but there's no religious connotation. Maybe you're thinking of muslemons.
2/6/2011 7:05:22 AM
Jezebel's Evil Sister
Muslimes ...Mooselimbs ... IsLame. My or my, will the creative hilarity that ensues from religious bigots never
2/6/2011 7:24:57 AM
You don't know what your own religion teaches, do you?
2/6/2011 7:30:32 AM
Oh no! Can't do anything that's like what the Muslims do! Next thing you know Catholics will be flying airplanes into buildings!
And the rosaries and crucifixes are not idols. Catholics do not worship them as gods, so I think they're in the clear. You could, however, make a stronger case about Catholics worshiping statues, but they don't worship rosaries. And I think the reason Catholics tend to have a crucifix with Jesus on it is to remind them that Jesus died for them.
2/6/2011 7:31:17 AM
I really like quotes where people are trying to out-holy other people.
2/6/2011 7:33:57 AM
In full fairness, I've always thought it kind of creepy that the Catholics carry around symbols of pain and death, but this guy takes that to an extreme.
2/6/2011 7:35:02 AM
If you want to rail against something, you should probably figure out what it is first.
2/6/2011 7:37:06 AM
You're off your nut.
2/6/2011 7:45:35 AM
"...the defeat of God's will by the devil..."
But "devil" is merely one of the creations of an omnipotent deity. What are the odds that an omnipotent being is going to be defeated in any way? Don't people notice the absurdity of the whole concept?
2/6/2011 7:49:53 AM
I expect the fundamentalists to ignore the gospels, but to ignore Paul? Whoa, that's a new low in religious ignorance.
Try cracking open your holy book and reading it sometime AnonOnline. The death of Jesus was something of an obsession for Paul. He emphasized it continually in his letters. He wanted to make sure that his followers always remembered Jesus' death. The resurrection seems to have been something of an afterthought in the epistles. It was his suffering and death that really got Paul's mojo working. It was because of Paul's obsession that the "artistic" image of the crucifixion came about.
2/6/2011 8:01:30 AM
I for one have always found rosaries fascinating, really, mostly from a historical perspective.
2/6/2011 8:10:05 AM
Percy Q. Shunn
2/6/2011 8:14:23 AM
This actually wasn't that bad until the second paragraph. Since the second paragraph completely contradicts what is stated in the first, I'm confused. Was the OP quoting another poster in the first paragraph, but didn't format it correctly? Or maybe I'm just reading it wrong.
But in any case, as someone who was brought up Catholic, I can tell you that the crucifixes are intended to remember Jesus' sacrifice of himself (or something) and the ensuing Resurrection, and that the Rosary beads have nothing to do with the Crucifixion. They are just a memory aid for the sake of a certain prayer sequence, related to certain points in the life of Jesus. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
2/6/2011 8:30:44 AM
..what? No, really, what? That makes no sense at all. I guess this is supposed to be referring to the idea that praying to images of saintly figures, or an image of the Christian God, is actually idol worship as you are not worshipping the actual person or being, but... what?
2/6/2011 9:08:42 AM
It doesn't contradict itself. He's saying that it's good that children can't wear crucifixes or rosary beads in schools because it's a form of idol worship. He then, um, "explains" his position in the second paragraph.
2/6/2011 9:20:51 AM
So, your fine with the cross, so long as your savior ain't hanging on it eh? All righty then.
2/6/2011 9:28:08 AM
"The man on a t-shaped wooden sacrificial altar is a nod to the defeat of God's will by the devil..."
Um.. the man nailed to a "t-shaped wooden sacrificial altar" WAS God's will, according to you people.
Y'know.. the whole "sent-to-save-our-souls-by-dying-on-the-cross" thing?
Geez, no wonder you lot can't see the contradictions in the bible; your entire thought process is apparently one big series of contradictions.
Also, it wasn't a "sacrificial altar" of any kind. It was using the slow, agonizing death of condemned prisoners as an example to others.
2/6/2011 9:37:09 AM
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