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The Fox News host took a lot of heat for claiming that science cannot explain why the tides occur in such a regular fashion when in fact the tides are the combined effects of the gravitational forces exerted by the moon and the sun and the rotation of the Earth.

O'Reilly remains unimpressed:

"Okay, how did the moon get there? How'd the moon get there? Look, you pinheads who attacked me for this, you guys are just desperate. How'd the moon get there? How'd the sun get there? How'd it get there? Can you explain that to me? How come we have that and Mars doesn't have it? Venus doesn't have it. How come? Why not? How'd it get here?"


Bill O'Reilly, Huffington Post 91 Comments [2/7/2011 4:05:04 AM]
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Is this a true quote? I don't believe even Bill O'Reilly is that stupid.

2/7/2011 4:06:53 AM

Anon

Well, Mars has even TWO moons. I just want to mention it. A space probe just visited one of them only some weeks ago, transmitting very nice pictures back to earth.

For our other questions, Mr. O'Reilly, please read any basic introduction to cosmology.

The answers you will get are a little bit more complicated than "Goddidit", but also much much better. Because they are founded on the results of very hard work from countless scientists, working on these topics since centuries. And NOT on ancient fables.

2/7/2011 4:11:00 AM

Serph-no-Okami

The moon came from the debris of a planetoid impacting with a young earth, if I remember correctly. The sun came from a dense cloud of particles which condensed under it's own gravitational pull. Mars and Venus don't have tides because, surprise, no liquid water (that we know of). Now, I could be wrong (it's been a while since I read about planetary and starformation) but it's known, which makes you an ill-informed buffoon that moved the goalposts. Congratulations.

2/7/2011 4:12:41 AM

Argle Bargle

Give him a break, he was too busy condemning poor people and liberals to notice the planetary system he's in. He's currently trying to asses whether the inhabitants of mars and venus are liberal or conservative.

2/7/2011 4:16:52 AM

Alcari

let's see:

Impact with a large body during formation of the earth, then gravity.

Gravity acting on a large gascloud forming an accretion disk and a sun.

Mars has 2 moons, both probably trapped asteroids. Venus has none. Earth has one because of abovementioned reason.





Here's a non-existant moon of mars eclipsing the sun. ON MARS!

2/7/2011 4:17:53 AM

Panz

The simple irony of someone calling others pinheads because he won't crack a science book

2/7/2011 4:29:31 AM

HoverSponge

Wow...

2/7/2011 4:44:34 AM

Mister Spak

Look, pinhead, we had an entire conference dedicated to the origin of the moon a decade ago. However I couldn't explain it to you for the same reson I couldn't go to the zoo and explain it to a monkey.

2/7/2011 5:07:19 AM

Die Mensch-Maschine

> Is this a true quote? I don't believe even Bill O'Reilly is that stupid.

I don’t think that Bill O’Reilly is that stupid either. I think he appeals to parts of his audience.

2/7/2011 5:15:55 AM

Panz

@Die Mensch-Maschine

I'm not so sure about that, this is the same man that argued with a general that the 101st slaughtered SS prisoners of war at Melmedy. Whe he was corrected by his own viewers he still insisted he was right and Fox changed the transcript to read "Normandy". this went on for some time till BillO admitted somewhat that he fucked up

2/7/2011 5:20:08 AM



What’s your point? How the moon got there doesn’t change the fact that it’s what causes tides. Just like how I got to the store—whether it be car, bus, bike, or foot—doesn’t change the fact that I’m gonna pick up some new Listerine. Pretty glad the cashier doesn’t interrogate me about that when I just wanna get through checkout.

2/7/2011 5:33:31 AM

From the frozen north, Death cometh

Damnit Bill, you are smarter than this. This really comes off as intellectual laziness... Calling people pinheads (even if that's one of your signature insults), when you don't know anything about the subject at hand, is just childish.

He really seems like a intelligent guy, but I guess smart people are very good at justifying the stupid shit they believe in.

2/7/2011 5:53:07 AM

Canadiest

The real reason Bill said this? To divert the direction of the interview as the Atheist opponent was making sensible points. He hoped to waste a few minutes with the guy defending gravitational forces, etc, and woulda followed up with "who made those?"

But the seasoned Atheist gave a bewildered WTF echo and went back to topic.

All Fox defenders of Fundieism have used this tactic. Try to get them angry with ridiculous statements and derail their real purpose, when that fails just keep talking over them or say " that sounds like something Hitler would say"

He tried this shit with Dawkins with the old "Atheist Hitler" ploy, Dawkins squinted in pain then ignored it to stay on track.

You won't get foxbot Christians to agree Bill was stupid on this because everything that occurs is at God's grace to them.

2/7/2011 5:53:56 AM

aaa

Go back to school, you big dummy.

2/7/2011 6:02:49 AM

Swede

Mars and Venus have the exact same sun as we do, stupid.
You need to study a bit of Cosmology, most kids learn about this in fifth grade, or something. Were you absent from school that month?

In order to have tides, you need to have water in liquid form.

2/7/2011 6:06:47 AM

MarylandBear

Even Rush Limbaugh, well before O'Reilly commented on the moon, said O'Reilly was Ted Baxter.

(Okay, for you young'uns out there... Ted Baxter was the character portrayed by Ted Knight on The Mary Tyler Moore Show. He was the nightly news anchor of the TV station where the series took place. Baxter was vain, arrogant, utterly convinced of his own brilliance... and a complete moron.)

2/7/2011 6:15:11 AM

TGRwulf

And Bill-O just gets dumber and fucking dumber.

2/7/2011 6:51:08 AM

Thrutch

It would appear that Mr O'Rly would like a complete high school science education

2/7/2011 6:53:24 AM

Paler_Face

Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyHzhtARf8M

[link copies from of Bad Astronomy]

If I'm not mistaken, this is the video with the quote in question.
Bill'O is either a really collossal moron, or he is pandering to a large audience composed solely of collosal morons.
Which of the 2 is the scarier option?

2/7/2011 6:53:29 AM

Doubting Thomas

Um, Mars does have moons. Two of them, in fact.

But from what I get from the statement is that Bill is trying to say that God causes the tides because he made the moon. But even he should realize that saying, "Where did the moon come from? Where did the sun come from?" is simply argument from ignorance. He's trying to say that if you can't prove it, then by default God did it.

2/7/2011 7:03:58 AM

Brendan Rizzo

We already have a very good idea about how the moon got here. Back when the Earth was first formed and had not yet cooled down, a huge-ass object the size of Mars crashed into it, and the resulting catastrophe (imagine the Tunguska event times several million at least) caused molten rock from both the primieval Earth and the Mars-like object to collect in Earth's orbit, and there was enough of it for gravity to pull it all into the Moon. I learned this back in middle school. Where is your excuse, O'Reilly?

2/7/2011 7:06:49 AM



Originally posted by Paler_Face

Bill'O is either a really collossal moron, or he is pandering to a large audience composed solely of collosal morons.
Which of the 2 is the scarier option?

I take All of the Above. No matter how smart one is, choosing to pander to colossal morons makes one a different, but equally colossal type of moron.

2/7/2011 7:11:41 AM

GigaGuess

Bah, answering is pointless...it's all just one big Zeno's Paradox. Explain one thing, and he insists God is the explanation for the explanation. He'll just keep shifting the goalposts.

2/7/2011 7:19:47 AM

dionysus

I get it. This is all a ploy by Bill O'Reilly. He's determined to say things so unbelievably stupid that any person with even moderate intelligence will instinctively headdesk. After a long time of this the brain damage will become so severe that we'll match his viewers and perhaps become one of them.

2/7/2011 7:21:24 AM

Doctor Whom

We have theories for how the sun and the moon got there. Your turn: How did God get there?

2/7/2011 7:26:18 AM
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