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Most dads would rather be told they have terminal cancer than have their son tell them he is gay, particularly if it is your only son. Coming out of the closet is a selfish act. It turns your problem into your family’s problem and forces everyone around you to live a lie. I have seen this destroy families. If you are gay, stay in the closet.

wolfman23601, Free Republic 126 Comments [2/22/2011 4:29:57 AM]
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Erben

"and forces everyone around you to live a lie."
So....telling the truth forces people to live a lie?
Wat?

2/22/2011 4:36:28 AM

Some Guy

So glad we have you here to tell us what "most dads" think.

2/22/2011 4:39:15 AM

SurfinSeaOtter

Some people just don't realize how painful cancer is

2/22/2011 4:45:05 AM

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I always take life advice from Free Republic

2/22/2011 4:45:28 AM

whatever

"Coming out of the closet is a selfish act. It turns your problem into your family’s problem and forces everyone around you to live a lie."

Citation needed.

However, if your family consists mainly of conservatives and fundies, maybe it's a good thing to put the pressure on them.

2/22/2011 4:47:19 AM

From the frozen north, Death cometh

As always there is nothing that anti-gay people fear more than homosexuals being ok with their sexuality and feelings.

The only reason knowing your child was gay would destroy your family is that you are a petty, self centered and don't love your child unconditionally.

2/22/2011 4:51:05 AM

Anon2

"wolfman23601", your statement is a pure textbook example of "Emotional blackmail".

When a family gets destroyed when one of their children declares to be homosexual, then this family was build on sand. Hypocrisy is a very bad basis for a family.

Children, after being grown up, owe their parents NOTHING. The most important thing for everybody is to live his OWN life as an adult and to get happy by ones own ways. I don't have the obligation to make my parents happy.

When the parents have a problem with their child being homosexual: Well, thats their problem. Get over with it.

2/22/2011 4:52:42 AM

Bong Hit Barbie

If you're religious, stay in the closet.

2/22/2011 5:00:20 AM

The_L

Staying in the closet is an equally selfish act, one that shows you care more about your personal comfort than about honesty and integrity. It forces YOU to live a lie. Your spouse will wonder why you don't find him/her attractive, and that WILL destroy your marriage.

The only thing that I've seen to destroy the families of gay people is hate.

2/22/2011 5:04:17 AM

Areze

Sorry to break it, but the entire country (let alone the world) doesn't consist of self-entitled homophobes. If you are a homophobe, keep your bigotry to yourself.

2/22/2011 5:09:33 AM

Freethinker

I don't know.. for what I've seen, my uncle was glad his son came out of the closet. Solved a whole lot of guessing and wondering why the boy acted the way he did. Helped my nephew as well. He's a lot more mature now, more self-confident and a lot nicer as well..

I think this freeper is afraid of his dad...

2/22/2011 5:09:34 AM

baileysmom

Oh Lord, I applaud you! You and I are sooo much alike, basking in the glory of God! My little girl Bailey is definitely a breath of homeschooled freshness. Recently, at the age of 14, she has given us another beautiful grandchild! It's her third, and we couldn't be more proud of her for allowing the Lord's seed to live in her womb! Nothing made me prouder than when I walked in her room, to find her on her knees in front of her father, her face dripping-wet with the glory of the Lord! Keep up the good work, and don't let Satan get hold of your family. Our well-adjusted daughter is living proof of the power of Christ!


2/22/2011 5:11:40 AM



(looks at baileysmom's comment)

Haven't I seen this before?

2/22/2011 5:14:27 AM

Brianisha

Most dads would rather be told they have terminal cancer than have their son tell them he is christian, particularly if it is your only son. Telling people you believe in Jesus is a selfish act. It turns your problem into your family’s problem and forces everyone around you to live a lie. I have seen this destroy families. If you are christian, stay in the closet.

Fixed.

2/22/2011 5:20:36 AM

nutbunny

I would rather you had terminal cancer too

2/22/2011 5:28:09 AM

Swede

Staying in the closet is living the lie, stupid!
Being yourself or accepting your family members as they are, that's not living a lie.

What does it matter how many sons you have? And what about gay daughters?

All the guys I know would probably rather have a gay son than die of cancer.
I have never seen a family destroyed by having a gay son or daughter.


2/22/2011 5:40:57 AM



For some reason, I didn’t need to finish reading the first sentence to know how it ended.

Anyway, even assuming that homosexuality was a “problem,” what kind of fucking family would refuse to help one of their members through it? I find the suggestion that one should rely on one’s family for help and guidance as offensive as the homophobia.

2/22/2011 5:46:45 AM

WWWWolf

> Coming out of the closet is a selfish act. It turns your problem into your family’s problem and forces everyone around you to live a lie.

Oh, so you have that kind of a family. So, which is worse: Living in a lie yourself, or forcing other people lie that they love you, when they plainly and obviously do not? Which is worse: a person shutting up about everyone's problems, or forcing everyone to confront their problems?

If you stop lying and it forces other people to lie, then it's obvious that you're not the one who has problems.

2/22/2011 5:59:30 AM

Mister Spak

"I have seen this destroy families."

Fundieism often destroys families. Everyone is better off if they stay in the coset. Jesus says you are supposed to do that anyways.


2/22/2011 6:15:23 AM

Doubting Thomas

I must be one of the minority, because I'd much rather have my son tell me that he's gay than to be told I have terminal cancer. I hope my son turns out straight, but if he is gay I'll still love & accept him. I'd much rather have a well-adjusted, happy gay son than one who is constantly unhappy because he can't be who he really is and has to constantly hide it.

Maybe wolfman just can't understand the idea of unconditional familial love. But if he thinks that homosexuality is a problem, then he is the one with a problem.

2/22/2011 6:25:44 AM

arctic knight

It only becomes a family problem if the family has a problem with it. If my son told me he was gay, my response would be, "Good for you, but you still need to get the lawn mowed before it gets dark out there." In other words, nothing would change.

2/22/2011 6:28:19 AM

TGRwulf

Only if you're a bigoted homophobe. The rest of us compassionate human beings have no problem with it.

2/22/2011 6:31:32 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Um, hell no. Maybe you would prefer dying of cancer to siring a gay man, but pretty much everyone else would not. I know for a fact that if I ever have sons, and one ever turns out to be gay, then I would prefer that to having such a serious and deadly disease as terminal cancer. At least I would accept such hypothetical children for what they are and not be a hateful douche like you, who has apparently experienced this firsthand. I hope your son is happy without you.

2/22/2011 6:42:15 AM

dionysus

Most dads would rather be told they have terminal cancer than have their son tell them he is gay, particularly if it is your only son.

Ever heard the phrase "be careful what you wish for"?

Coming out of the closet is a selfish act.

It's pretty damn selfish of YOU to prefer to die and leave your family in significant financial trouble and emotional pain rather than face a fact that you don't like.

It turns your problem into your family’s problem and forces everyone around you to live a lie.

If the gay person tells the truth and comes out it's not his fault if his family is so insecure that they all have to live a lie. And weren't you just talking about being selfish? I think forcing your son to lie or lying to others to maintain appearances is just about as selfish as you can get. It sounds just like all of those douchebags that buy status symbols to make people think they're more important, they just end up looking like, well, douchebags.

I have seen this destroy families.

Fundie families, maybe. But then again there isn't much love in those families anyway. All they want is obedience, as if their kids are dogs or something. Love is about accepting people for who they are with all of their imperfections.

If you are gay, stay in the closet.

No, it's not harmless gays that need to stay in the closet, it's fundies who need to learn to shut the fuck up especially when it comes to other people's personal lives.

2/22/2011 7:02:54 AM

Joe Mama

particularly if it is your only son.

What does it matter if he's your only son or not? I guess it means you can't just easily write him off and dote on your other offspring?

2/22/2011 7:09:52 AM
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