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“Further, neurological research indicates that a particular part of the brain is connected to religious experiences. Perhaps atheists are the product of a genetic deficiency or disorder – and if so, one can only wonder what else is wrong with them. After all, most atheists seem to suffer from delusions of grandeur, convinced that they hold the keys to humanity’s march toward utopia. They are also quite happy to embrace programs to “improve” humanity to suit their own purposes – hardly a coincidence, one would have to suggest, that the most repressive regimes of recent days have all been formulated along atheistic, humanist principles. One can only hope that the possible link between atheism and mental illness is examined honestly before countless others suffer needlessly.”

Wallo's World, Militant Atheism Exposed 80 Comments [2/23/2011 5:48:37 AM]
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Mister Spak

“Further, neurological research indicates that a particular part of the brain is connected to religious experiences. Perhaps christianists are the product of a genetic deficiency or disorder – and if so, one can only wonder what else is wrong with them. After all, most christianists seem to suffer from delusions of grandeur, convinced that a giant man with a long white beard is telling them how everyone should be forced to live their lives. They are also quite happy to embrace programs to “improve” humanity to suit their own purposes – hardly a coincidence, one would have to suggest, that the most repressive regimes of recent days have all been formulated along fundieist, cultist principles. One can only hope that the possible link between christianism and mental illness is examined honestly before countless others suffer needlessly.”


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EDIT: This is true. Temporal lobe epilepsy is associated with religious fervor and devient sexual behavior, more often complete loss of interest in sex, but sometimes wierd fetishes.


2/23/2011 6:00:49 AM

C_V


yeah, no. that section of the brain? also associated with delusion. best see to that beam in your eye, huh?

2/23/2011 6:05:22 AM

Grimsoncrow

Actually,that's possibly true- in the past humans could not differentiate between the outside and inside of their heads.
When,for example,human "heard" a voice saying "don't rape that girl even though you'd want to", he thought it was god speaking to him, since it seemed to pop into his head out of nowhere. Nowadays most humans brains have connected differently, through more arduous and complicated use and plain old evolution.
That's what I read somewhere anyway.Cant remember where.Makes sense to me.
So I guess we're simply more evolved, whereas Your God Haphazardly slapped you together in one day.
As Bill Hics said: "Looks like He rushed it."

2/23/2011 6:10:18 AM

Passerby

This guy does realize that more atrocities have been committed in the name of God than financial gain and 'progress' put together right?

Utopia has always been the rhetoric of the religious, swearing blind that paradise awaits only their faithful and will only come 'back' to Earth when all the non-believers die off.

I love how these fundie arguments tend to declare all atheists as being amoral nihilists in one breath and egomaniacal social engineers the next.

I'd like to see some citation or reference material to that research linking particular parts of the brain to 'religious' experiences. If it actually exists, I'd bet a steak dinner that same part of the brain is responsible for hallucinations and psychotic episodes.

Edit:

I also notice that the ass-pull research doesn't distinguish Christianity from any other religion that dominates what we may dub the delusion lobe of the brain. Does that mean they're all the one true faith smartypants?

Oh, thanks for the exposition Mister Spak. Temporal lobe epilepsy sounds like a perfect description for these broken, circular arguments being made for truth in the Bible.

2/23/2011 6:11:59 AM

Anon2

neurological research indicates that a particular part of the brain is connected to religious experiences.

Did this fundie just admit that religious experiences have their origin in the human brain?

I think this fundie didn't think for a second about the consequences from these neurological scientific findings he just admitted to be valid:

Religion is something man-made. "We made God in our own image". And religious experiences then only prove that somebody had certain neurons firing in his brain, nothing else. No religious experience therefore proves anything "supernatural". Any "prophecies" are nothing but the prophets individual brain farts. Any "speaking in tongues", "The Holy Spirit" is nothing but a neurological phenomenon.

2/23/2011 6:13:10 AM

breakerslion

"Perhaps atheists are the product of a genetic deficiency or disorder..."

Yeah. We're mutants. We got a bullshit detector instead.

"They are also quite happy to embrace programs to “improve” humanity to suit their own purposes."

Yes, that would be education in cult practices, scams, coercion and propaganda techniques, and critical thinking skills. I guess attempting to elevate the masses above the level of gullible sheep would suit the purposes of most dictators far better than a state religion.

@ Anon2: No, he thinks his brain is a radio and there's a specific spot that god can fellate.

2/23/2011 6:20:03 AM

nutbunny

Further, neurological research indicates that a particular part of the brain is connected to religious experiences.

And thus religious experiences are brain induced, not God-induced

2/23/2011 6:21:39 AM



Repressive regime. Saudi Arabia. Atheists?

2/23/2011 6:23:28 AM

arctic knight

You mean "repressive regimes" like Sweden. on of the most atheistic countries in the world right now? Yes, I can see how their prosperity and peacefulness can seem oppressive to you.

2/23/2011 6:25:45 AM

Doubting Thomas

So we're mentally ill because we don't believe in ancient fairy tales and hear God talking to us, not to mention speaking in tongues or letting our children die by refusing medical care in favor of prayer?

2/23/2011 6:40:04 AM

Mrs. Antichrist

Of course a part of the brain is connected with it -- all of our experiences are connected to our brains, genius.

If being an atheist is a result of a physical neurological disorder of some kind, your god is kind of a dick for sending us to hell for it.

2/23/2011 6:46:45 AM

aaa

I pity you.

2/23/2011 6:47:25 AM

dionysus

You know what else neurological studies show? That god, unsurprisingly, agrees with a believer's opinions. In fact, during the study it was found that even when believers eventually changes their mind about an issue, god magically still agrees with them! As the article put it (paraphrased): god is like a compass that always points North!

So, even if we atheists really lack a part of the brain and even if it's normal to have that part of the brain, I don't miss it. I'd rather have a compass that works and tells me when I'm going in the wrong direction than one that always tells me I'm right on track.

2/23/2011 6:59:49 AM

dionysus

@#1259960

Repressive regime. Saudi Arabia. Atheists?

You forget, to fundies atheists and Muslims are one and the same. Just like to extreme right wingers in the US being liberal is the same as being gay and it's also the same as being socialist which in turn is the same as both communism and Nazism. Yeah, and apparently WE'RE the ones that are screwed up in the head XD.

2/23/2011 7:07:46 AM

484

@dionysus

Working compasses always point north, that's how you know which way you're going.

2/23/2011 7:08:30 AM

Mithras

You, Sir, Are And idiot.

Repressive regimes formulated along humanistic principles? How the hell would that work out?

2/23/2011 7:15:50 AM



I read the first part (paraphrasing):

"Many pycopaths have and haven't believed in god, from hitler a believer to stalin an atheist"

Hmmm.... maybe not that crazy

"However, the view of a creator is the one currently with the most accepted evidence and proof"

AHA! There you are fundie.

2/23/2011 7:16:03 AM

Dr. Shrinker

And yet, the vast majority of people in prison for both violent and non-violent crimes profess belief in some form of religion. Perhaps you should have done a bit more research Wallo.

2/23/2011 7:23:15 AM

dionysus

@#1259968

Working compasses always point north, that's how you know which way you're going.

I meant relative to the display, not relative to the Earth as in a compass that always DISPLAYS North.

2/23/2011 7:26:29 AM

X

Well, another case of cognitive dissonance.

There is barely a difference between faith and psychosis.

2/23/2011 7:33:41 AM

Swede

How come many atheists are former religious people, even former fundamentalists?
And are you more or less deficient if you believe in just one god or many gods?

Delusions of grandeur? You mean the fact that many atheists think humans are not "speshul", that we are just as important as all the other animals and plants? That kind of grandeur?

The only programs to improve humanity that we embrace are comprehensive educations.

Humanist=/= repressive

2/23/2011 7:33:51 AM

FMG

Yeah, how is all that life expectency from atheist vaccination programs keeping you? Or would you like to go back to prayer to save your kids from meningitis, polio and small pox?

2/23/2011 7:34:02 AM

WWWWolf

> Further, neurological research indicates that a particular part of the brain is connected to religious experiences. Perhaps atheists are the product of a genetic deficiency or disorder – and if so, one can only wonder what else is wrong with them.

I'm not Christian, and I can have "religious experiences". I'm pretty sure atheists can have religious experiences all the same. Nothing wrong with their heads.

Simply put, "religious" feelings occur whether any actual religion is involved at all. You're confusing the psychological phenomena of religion with the social phenomena of religion.

This is like the Higgs boson debate. People were just doing research, minding their own business, until someone called the thing "God particle". Whether any gods at all are involved in physical sense is irrelevant; the social effect was that because God was mentioned, it's suddenly Serious Business.

2/23/2011 7:41:23 AM

Anon-e-moose

"Further, neurological research indicates" tl;dr...

I don't see no Ph.D, professorship etc of neurology after your name, boy. Nor that said research has been carried out by you personally.. Ergo...:



QED.

2/23/2011 7:46:29 AM

Doctor Whom

[H]ardly a coincidence, one would have to suggest, that the most repressive regimes of recent days have all been formulated along atheistic, humanist principles.

No, it's not a coincidence. It's a lie.


2/23/2011 7:46:47 AM
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