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LA CROSSE, Wisc., Feb. 21, 2011 /Christian Newswire/ -- What's going on? Are all universally saved, after all? Did Richard Dawkins become a Christian? Did he… remain an atheist, and STILL go to heaven? Such questions leap to mind when presented with title of the newest short story collection released by author and Christian apologist Anthony Horvath: "Richard Dawkins, Antony Flew, and Mother Teresa Go to Heaven."

Written over a span of two years, these three short stories detail what happens as each of the individuals come face to face with the reality of life after death. From Mother Teresa, who devoted her life to God but felt abandoned by Him to Antony Flew who vowed to 'follow the evidence,' to Richard Dawkins, who with Bertrand Russell said, "Not enough evidence!" these stories draw from what is known publicly to imagine what would happen in this most private of moments.

The book is currently only available on Amazon Kindle and Barnes and Noble's Nook.

Author and apologist Anthony Horvath explains his purpose, "I have found that when I read stories their impact goes beyond the ideas they present. My whole being is stirred by them. That is why I also try to use stories. Antony Flew and Mother Teresa, of course, are deceased, but Richard Dawkins is still alive. I'd be interested to find out if he agrees with me on how he'd react when finally face to face with the Truth he was wrong about all along. I think that question is something we can all ponder, since even Christians will discover that there were points we misunderstood or were mistaken about. What will our response be?"

Horvath's apologetics ministry, Athanatos Christian Ministries, is unique in its attempt to use the arts and literature to make its case for Christianity along with more traditional methods of providing argument and evidence. From its annual Christian writing contests to its annual online apologetics conference featuring a defense of the family through film (keynote Gene E. Veith, with Jason Jones of "Bella" and Dallas Jenkins of "What If", and others), ACM attempts to engage the culture and call on other Christians to do the same.

"Let's face it," Horvath says, "People are moved as much by Story as they are by Evidence. And we've got the best Story in town."

Anthony Horvath, Christian Newswire 72 Comments [2/25/2011 4:40:54 AM]
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Percy Q. Shunn

Wow, that is one huge load of horseshit.

2/25/2011 4:57:43 AM

whatever

My hopes for a new renaissance have been set back by 100 years... again.

2/25/2011 4:59:04 AM

Anon2

"Let's face it," Horvath says, "People are moved as much by Story as they are by Evidence. And we've got the best Story in town."

So Mr. Horvath openly admits that he has no evidence, and that everything in the christian religion is nothing but a story?

2/25/2011 5:03:51 AM

TGRwulf

Story will only move people for so long without evidence. Then they're going to want to see the proof.

2/25/2011 5:07:28 AM

Ken

It's pretty much a fundie fap fest.

2/25/2011 5:11:39 AM

nutbunny

"People are moved as much by Story as they are by Evidence. And we've got the best Story in town."

Yeah, the best STORY

2/25/2011 5:22:33 AM

The_L

"Let's face it," Horvath says, "People are moved as much by Story as they are by Evidence. And we've got the best Story in town."

You have to admire his candor there.

2/25/2011 5:31:07 AM

Imsety

"along with more traditional methods of providing argument and evidence"

Oh that's nice, I'd sure like to see that evidence of yours.

2/25/2011 5:47:47 AM

Table Rock

And we've got the best Story in town.

A dictionary in a wood chipper tells a better story than that.

2/25/2011 5:53:56 AM

MarkB

It's not a good story if it ends with a deus ex machina.

2/25/2011 6:15:09 AM

Doctor Whom

I'd be interested to find out if he agrees with me on how he'd react when finally face to face with the Truth he was wrong about all along.

Probably the same way you'll react when you're finally face to face with the Truth you were wrong about all along, when Allah asks you, "Did you acknowledge that I am not a Trinity and that Muhammad is My prophet?".

People are moved as much by Story as they are by Evidence. And we've got the best Story in town.

You deserve the "More Honest than I Intended to Be" award. Also, we've been waiting for the punchline of your story for over 1,900 years now.

2/25/2011 6:21:24 AM

Mister Spak

" From Mother Teresa, who devoted her life to God "

But catholics aren't christians, so she's going to hell.

"Antony Flew who vowed to 'follow the evidence,' to Richard Dawkins, who with Bertrand Russell said, "Not enough evidence!" these stories draw from what is known publicly to imagine what would happen in this most private of moments. "

Perhaps you don't understand the difference between 'evidence' and 'imaginary'.


2/25/2011 6:27:33 AM

Pule Thamex

My guess is that they are the kind of drooling fantasy tales as inspired by the 'Golden Treasury of Instant Bullshit for Inveterate Cherry-Pickers'.

Here's one:-

A Fundie Dies And Meets God

"O my Lord, I can't tell you how excited I am to meet you at last. I can't stop wagging my tail", gabbled the thrilled fundie.
"I expect", the Mighty Lord intoned, "I expect you'll be wanting in to my pad."
"O yes please my Lord, by the way, sorry about the mess, I'll clean it up straight away, just got a bit excited. Heh!"
"Hmm! Exactly how stupid an omniscient deity do you think I am?", rumbled God.
"Pardon, My Lord?", the fundie squeaked, rather nervously.
"Do you think that an omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent deity, such as Myself, cares to share His hallowed quarters with an intolerant, violent and anti-God's-work oaf?", spoke God.
"Umm ...!??!??," ummed the fundie.
"OK. Take the stairs to your left and keep going down until you reach the bottom step. There enter the forbidding portal and continue on down some more until you enter the vast pits of Hell where you'll be eternally tortured. Mwahahaha!!"

The End ... of the beginning. Mwahahaha!

2/25/2011 6:36:19 AM

dionysus

People are moved as much by Story as they are by Evidence. And we've got the best Story in town.

No you don't. Take any Hemingway novel or any Steinbeck novel and your little collection of middle eastern fables falls WAY short of them. So much so, in fact, that I feel bad even comparing them. It's like having Michael Jordan in his prime play a 1 on 1 game against an obese 8 year old. If I want to make a fair comparison I can compare the Bible to the Weekly World News.



Yahweh, you've just met your equal!

2/25/2011 6:51:50 AM

Doubting Thomas

I love how Christians believe they get to pick who goes to heaven and who doesn't. I think there was something in their babble about judge not lest ye be judged.

This book is just another on my list of books I'll never read. It sounds like it's just another useless scare tactic that only convinces people who actually believe in an afterlife and hell. I don't think it ever occurred to Anthony that Richard Dawkins doesn't believe in an afterlife, so his speculation about how Mr. Dawkins would react is moot?

2/25/2011 6:56:37 AM

breakerslion

"Horvath's apologetics ministry, Athanatos Christian Ministries, is unique in its attempt to use the arts and literature to make its case for Christianity along with more traditional methods of providing argument and evidence."

No. The ministry might be unique in that it's a little more overt, but all those plaster dummies and the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel did not create themselves, nor are they strictly decorative. One can find reading circles in many churches eagerly devouring and discussing the fantasy fertilizer found by the ton on bookstore shelves labeled, "Inspirational" and "Religion".

Here's a short story for Anthony Horvath:

Anthony Horvath dies and goes into the ground. He rots. The End.

Sorry it's not as imaginative or entertaining as fiction.

2/25/2011 7:00:55 AM

solomongrundy

I grant it's all complete rubbish but I'm not convinced it's particularly fundie rubbish.

2/25/2011 7:07:24 AM



Originally posted by solomongrundy

I grant it's all complete rubbish but I'm not convinced it's particularly fundie rubbish.

Oh, it’s quite fundie. Just not very darned.

How can “What happens when when the people that disagree with me die and find out they’re totally wrong and I’m totally right?” not be fundie?

I wonder if an excerpt from the book would help make something a bit more darned.

2/25/2011 7:13:35 AM

aaa

Yawn. At least they attempt to form a proper argument.

2/25/2011 7:26:42 AM



"... more traditional methods of providing argument and evidence."

Ha
haha
hahahahahaha

ARGUMENT!!
EVIDENCE!!!!!

"goddidit" isn't "argument"
"the bible sayz" isn't evidence


hahahahaha

2/25/2011 7:39:12 AM

Papabear

Of course, this is all based upon your favorite story being true, for which there is no evidence. Being moved by a story which is not true is the same as being moved by a lie. No pride should be taken in moving people with a lie.

2/25/2011 7:51:27 AM

Z

Those who want to see how he describes Dawkin's ultimate demise can see some excerpts here: http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/02/richard_dawkins_goes_to_heaven.php

2/25/2011 7:55:06 AM

Anon-e-moose

"And we've got the best Story in town"

And we Atheists - including Richard Dawkins - have the Evidence. The Facts.

We win.

@dionysus

Always needs more Batboy. b^_^d

2/25/2011 8:02:33 AM

Philbert McAdamia

Uh huh. When I was little and told a lie my mom called it a "story", too.

@ breakerslion
Anthony Horvath dies and goes into the ground. He rots. The End.
Sorry it's not as imaginative or entertaining as fiction.

It does have a happy ending.

2/25/2011 8:03:37 AM

John_in_Oz

Christian fiction is a redundancy.

2/25/2011 8:07:09 AM
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