If children are sent into godless temples of state worship ( misnamed “schools”), they will learn to think and reason godlessly and worship the state.
If conservatives love their children, if they are are concerned about the children of this nation, if they hope to overcome communism and fascist islam, then we MUST MUST MUST shut down the godless temples of state worship ( “public schools”). We MUST MUST MUST work to see that every child has access to a conservative Judeo-Christian based education.
( By the way...If Christian and conservative teachers really loved their students they would be working to get these kids OUT of the government schools. They wouldn't be working IN the godless government temples ( misnamed “public schools”) cooperating in the moral destruction of children.)
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And then, fifteen years down the line, these same people will be complaining about liberals controlling the banks, industries, the officer commissions in both the military and the police forces, and every government position mandating a higher n education.
Just once I'd like you idiots to give one example of anyone worshipping the educational system.
Having faith in it is not worship, it's trusting it to educate which is it's only purpose. If the schools are Godless (they should be even more Godless than they are) then worship is simply impossible.
Ever see anyone pray to their school or teachers? No, pray for maybe but then we're right back to you God-worshippers.
The richest, smartest, most powerful people in history have generally sought a liberal (meaning extensive, varied, and broad) education for their children. It turns out that the most successful people are those who learn about a great many things; including things that they or their parents may not believe.
There are two kinds of people who denigrate public schools. Those who think they don't teach enough and those who are afraid they teach too much.
"if they hope to overcome communism"
Excuse me? Are you still fighting the cold war? I thought y'all declared that saint Ronnie Raygun defeated communism back in '89 or '90.
As for schools, they are absolutely full of evil liberals. You should keep your kids out. (My kids will need someone to cook their fries.)
"...overcome communism and fascist islam, "
Communism? In the U.S? What a boogey-man.
"...a conservative Judeo-Christian based education. "
These fundies always connect Judaism and Christianity because they see them as the "good guys", and leave out Islam as the third leg of the Abrahamic religion family. And what they don't realise is that in advocating religious indoctrination over a proper secular education, they're acting almost exactly like the Islamists they claim to be superior to.
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Every child DOES have access to a conservative Judeo-Christian education. There are many Catholic and Christian and Jewish private schools. If there are none in your area, many still take boarders. Can't afford it? You can homeschool. You don't even have to teach the kids yourself! You can leave them at home and use one of the many online schools.
Oh, wait. This isn't about your kids. This is about you indoctrinating everyone else's kids. My mistake.
If children are sent into godless temples of state worship ( misnamed “schools”), they will learn to think
Horrors!
and reason godlessly
Horrors!!
and worship the state.
HOR - wait. You mean "pay taxes," right? If so, HORRORS!!1
Typical conservative mindset-- brainwash children to your centuries-out-of-date viewpoint, and do not even let them know about other, more reasonable points of view. It says a lot that this guy thinks that education is "godless state worship". Public schools have nothing to do with religion-- it is neither bashed nor supported there. Wintertime was obviously homeschooled "homskuuld" if he doesn't know this. Quotes like this are why I will be wary for as long as there are neocons and Tea Partiers in high positions in the government.
We MUST MUST MUST work to see that every child has access to a conservative Judeo-Christian based education.
"Work" is right. Send your kids to any Christian fundamentalist school you like, have them taught your religious beliefs, and pay for it yourself. Just don't expect people of other religions to pay to have their kids taught your religion.
We MUST MUST MUST work to see that every child has access to a conservative Judeo-Christian based education.
Except it's not your decision where others send their children to go to school or what values they're taught.
Tyranny, thy name is Christianity.
We MUST MUST MUST work to see that every child has access to a conservative Judeo-Christian based education.
Hey! Watch it! I know you Christian fundie retards want to poison kids with the ultra-conservative Christianity, (AKA Bullshitism) but leave the Jews out of this! We don't want anything to do with your sick, twisted plan. Oy vey...
"If children are sent into godless temples of state worship ( misnamed “schools”), they will learn to think and reason"
You should have stopped right there.
"We MUST MUST MUST work to see that every child has access to a conservative Judeo-Christian based education"
in other words, you must must must work to force every child to be taught a narrow and hateful view of politics and religion regardless of what their political and religious stand is, and against their parents wishes?
I thought you right wingers were all about parental choice on matters of politics and religion in school?
Calling them godless temples is actually a comment for atheists in America.
Sooner or later, we'll need a new generation of fuel jockeys, though hold off on teaching them how to handle gasoline alongside Jesus just yet; We're still not quite sure what will power our vehicles in the next half-century or so. Shut down schools? Not on my watch. In the unlikely event that I miraculously end up cured of The Gay, any child of mine will need at least a rudimentary understanding of physics to go enjoy RC flight, rocketry, sports, and... well, anything that moves.
Even in non-intellectual pursuits like sports, secular science is king. How else do you throw a curveball without mister Bernoulli's influence. How about archery without understanding Newton? Or gliding without Coanda and Coriolis, or Pascal?
Education now and forevermore, serves as the key to power, enlightenment and progress. It's delightful that you fundamentalists will willingly throw away such a potent utility; I may yet see a future increasingly free of you idiots in office.
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"If children are sent into godless temples of state worship ( misnamed “schools”), they will learn to think and reason godlessly and worship the state. "
Stop it, you're turning me on. Besides, I'm a product of Britain's state education system, which primarily encourages pupils to think for themselves. It's done me no harm whatsoever, and I've emerged as the progressive, forward-thinking, left -wing, pro-LGBT, pro-Choice person I am today. You got a problem with that, little Freeper?
"If conservatives love their children, if they are are concerned about the children of this nation, if they hope to overcome communism and fascist islam, then we MUST MUST MUST shut down the godless temples of state worship ( “public schools”). We MUST MUST MUST work to see that every child has access to a conservative Judeo-Christian based education."
David Cameron is a promoter of our state education system. As well he should, as he's our Prime Minister. And leader of the Conservative Party.
Destroyed argument, much?
By the logic that wintertime applies, hanging the washing on the line to dry is idolatry. Actually, I suppose it could be in some parts of the US if the white sheets are put to special use, along with the pointed hoods and the burning crosses on someone's lawn.
Based on that logic, voting is a form of heathen worship. You know what that means.
Oh, and one other thing, wintertime. Would you do me a favor, please, and tell your children that--when the time comes--yes, I would like fries with that.
"What did you do in school today, son?" "Well, dad, first we did some state worship, then after recess we did godless thinking and reasoning, then after lunch we did some moral destruction".
Also, I shudder to think what a "conservative Judeo-Christian based education" would be like.
Well...lets think about this for a second.
If we were to indulge the fundie self-awareness we would most surely be resorting to "holy war" much more than we do now. If so, I fail to see how that would quell Islamic fundamentalism. It would, in fact, incite further violence and give all fundies from all walks more fuel to keep burning in their bloodlust.
No - epic fail here.
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What about Jewish kids? Muslim kids, hindu children, what about non religious kids?
wintertime: We MUST MUST MUST work to see that every child has access to a conservative Judeo-Christian based education.
Does that answer your question?
If children are sent into godless temples of state worship ( misnamed “schools”), they will learn to think and reason godlessly and worship the state.
Look, you fundies may indeed have a very unhealthy perpetual hard-on for worship, but normal people do not. It IS possible to live your life and NOT worship anything. Such a life does exist. It's true! As for "godless reasoning", it's called rational thinking, you know, as in the thinking that you do which is not based on the fear of made-up ghosts in the sky.
If conservatives love their children, if they are are concerned about the children of this nation, if they hope to overcome communism and fascist islam, then we MUST MUST MUST shut down the godless temples of state worship ( “public schools”). We MUST MUST MUST work to see that every child has access to a conservative Judeo-Christian based education.
Every child DOES have access to such schooling. Have you ever heard of private christian schools? There, they will teach your child all the biblical hocus-pocus. You don't have to put your children in public schools... though somehow I imagine that this isn't about choice and your post is about forcing everyone to accept your religion.
I've heard that American companies are looking for educated workers, and that they can't find enough trained personnel in this country. That's part of the problem with the economy. With both China and India poised to surpass the USA's economy in a decade, the last thing we need is a generation of ignorant Americans.
So, my wife is a teacher in a public school. How does she fit into your conspiracy theory?
Now, be VERY careful how you answer that one.
Wait just a frackin' minute...idiot child is upset about students learning to worship the state, and I'll give you even money that he'll curse your very existence if you even think about not saying the pledge of allegience.
Oh, and "reason godlessly." LOL. As if you can "reason godfully?"
Fascist Islam is bad, but fascist "Judeo-Christianity" is good?
If there are no gods, then it's not a temple.
From your uninformed rant I'm going to hazard a guess that you are the product of homeskooling by an idiot parent. It's pretty obvious when you equate fascism with communism (they are vastly different and mortal enemies).
I also find it deliciously ironic when you morons talk of giving children an education founded in "Judeo-Christian" principles when really you want nothing to do with "dirty Jews." )be honest, now - I've seen your other posts)
What you propose would be the death of America as a world leader in science, engineering, and technological advances. The rest of the world is already beginning to overtake you and you would guarantee your descent to third-world country status with your moronic proposal.
As a side note, I can think of no people more ill-suited to educate children for a productive and prosperous future than religiously deluded right-wingers.
We MUST MUST MUST work to see that every child has access to a conservative Judeo-Christian based education.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion
Well ain't that a kick in the pants?
Wintertime, if there isn't a Christian school in your area and you can't homeschool for whatever reason, you can always move to a district that has one. If you live inside the US, you probably won't have to move very far at all. Drama queen much?
" if they hope to overcome communism and fascist islam,"
What about communist and facist christianity? How do we overcome that?
How about we MUST MUST MUST give kids a non-biased, factual education. We MUST MUST MUST refuse to indoctrinate them with religious beliefs or teach hatred in the name of religion, and we MUST MUST MUST teach them to think critically.
Sooo....any institution that doesn't cram the fact that Ronald Reagan and Chuck Norris traveled back in time and saved George Washington from a liberal feminist gay Terminator physically into the thin, semipermeable skulls of sweet, freckle-faced schoolchildren with a ball-peen hammer and an tanner's awl must be some sort of commie conformity factory?
Just checking.
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