Quote# 79685

(regarding the song "We Are the Champions," by Queen)

While the phrase is a perfect rally cry for victors in competition, such a matter had nothing to do with the writing of that song. It was a song to encourage they who choose to practice homosexuality; calling the practitioners of homosexuality (the "we") champions whether merited or not. Freddie, a self-proclaimed practitioner of homosexuality, was singing encouragement to others who likewise choose to practice homosexuality, encouraging them to think of themselves as champions, about being fighters for others who likewise choose to practice homosexuality. Another phrase of the song, "...and we'll keep on fighting till the end" was not about competing until that last yard or that last goal, basket or buzzer, but was about death ... his own ... in never-give-up defiance.

Thomas Carder, CapAlert 87 Comments [2/26/2011 6:17:37 AM]
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So the lead singer of Queen wrote a PRE-MORTEM song about his own death?

Do you listen to yourself when you speak??

2/26/2011 6:45:04 AM

Man Called True

@TGRwulf: That's really not that far-fetched an idea, given that the entire "Innuendo" album is basically about his AIDS.

But Mr. Carder, you are the only person who thinks encouraging homosexuals to live as they like regardless of idiots like you is a BAD thing. And I need proof that's what Freddy meant to begin with.

2/26/2011 6:47:39 AM


You people seem to have homosexuality on your mind an inordinate amount of the time.

This is very telling.

2/26/2011 7:22:30 AM

Doctor Whom

CapAlert: Your one-stop source for wingnuttery.

Also, I like the term "practitioners of homosexuality." That makes it sound as though we had to take a certification exam.

2/26/2011 7:30:20 AM


@Man Called True

I'm not saying the homosexuality thing is far fetched. I'm saying the singing about his own death is. Why would he make a line in a song about his own death 14 years before it happened?

2/26/2011 7:33:48 AM


I find quite funny that you keep overthinking about some pop songs.

2/26/2011 7:51:08 AM

Dr. Razark

"...choose to practice homosexuality"

A. Choice doesn't work that way.

B. They've been practicing a lot. They're really good at it now. Perhaps you should go see their recital?

2/26/2011 8:18:04 AM


@Man Called True:
Although Freddie Mercury knew he had AIDS a long time before he publicly admitted it, AIDS wasn't even identified till 1981, 4 years after the song was recorded.
Anyway, Mercury was bisexual. And he didn't even admit to his non-heterosexual lifestyle till the 80s - so even if Mr Carder was right about the content of the song (which he fucking isn't), it would hardly be clear to the gay community that it encouraged homosexuality, now would it?

2/26/2011 8:26:16 AM


"Freddie, a self-proclaimed practitioner of homosexuality" Has got to be one of the funniest things I've heard in a long time. Sounds like something from D&D. "My 4th level Practitioner of Homosexuality attacks your 5th level Paladin, doing 5 points of damage, to his bottom."

2/26/2011 8:34:03 AM

Doubting Thomas

Funny, I don't see anything even vaguely referencing homosexuality in the lyrics. They could refer to anything. Maybe the reason I don't see it is because I'm not obsessed with homosexuality.

2/26/2011 8:42:02 AM

Smurfette Principle

While the Bible (esp. the New Testament) is a perfect rally cry for homophobic fundamentalists, such a matter had nothing to do with the writing of the book. It was a book to encourage those who choose to practice Christianity; calling the Christians "neighbors" whether merited or not. Jesus, someone really awesome, was speaking encouragement to those who likewise choose to love their neighbors, encouraging them to think of everyone as friends, about being nice to everyone regardless of who they are or what they do. Another verse of the book, "But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God" (Leviticus 19:34) was not just about being nice to foreigners, but was about everyone... being nice... to everyone.

2/26/2011 8:44:28 AM


In other news, "We Will Rock You" is about how astrophysicists are going to take over the world.


2/26/2011 8:56:34 AM


@LAchlan you win the internets

But you forget Paladin has to make a saving role against poison for each successful attack or lose Paladin status.

Edited to add Freddie we miss you

2/26/2011 9:01:26 AM


fundies get crazier with every second that goes by.

2/26/2011 9:03:14 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Oh who fucking cares. It's Thomas Carder, king of double standards and ignorant moral guardians. This sort of behavior is expected from him.

2/26/2011 9:04:27 AM


What, besides the fact - not contained anywhere in the song - that Freddie Mercury was gay, would lead someone to believe the lyrics of the song were about homosexuals?

2/26/2011 9:10:46 AM

mad the swine

"What, besides the fact - not contained anywhere in the song - that Freddie Mercury was gay, would lead someone to believe the lyrics of the song were about homosexuals? "

Isn't that enough? Homosexuals define themselves by the gay sex act. You don't see heterosexuals going around talking about 'hetero pride', do you? That's because normal people compartmentalize their sexuality and don't let it define them. But to a homosexual, his entire life is about gay sex, and everything he does revolves around it.

(Unlike Thomas Carder, who is absolutely not obsessed with gay sex at all, thank you very much, and thinks about it all the time for PERFECTLY RATIONAL REASONS.)

(Yes, this is sarcasm.)

2/26/2011 9:17:57 AM


Not astrophysicists, geologists.

2/26/2011 9:41:56 AM

Argle Bargle

More like CrapAlert.

2/26/2011 9:43:22 AM


@Mad the swine:
Is the whole post sarcasm? Or just the part in parentheses? Some homosexuals define themselves by their sexuality, simply because it's a way of standing up against the heterosexual bigots, much as some femninists define themselves by their gender. But many do not - it's just that those homosexuals who do define themselves by their sexuality are the ones you notice - on gay pride marches, and on message boards. Those that don't are not so noticeable, because you don't know they're homosexuals. Incidentally, your username is the title of a Queen B-Side. Maybe you'd want to change it seeing as how you seem a little homophobic...

2/26/2011 9:47:10 AM


"a self-proclaimed practitioner of homosexuality"

well, i'm a self-proclaimed practitioner of heterosexuality, although not often enough. I prefer to call it "consensual sex" though.

2/26/2011 9:53:09 AM


Paranoid, bigoted, mean-spirited idiocy.

2/26/2011 10:01:39 AM


Or, or, and bear with me here because this is a radical concept, it might have been a song about being champions and heroes.

2/26/2011 10:23:30 AM

Jeff Weskamp

But tell me, was Mr. Mercury a fully-licensed practitioner of homosexuality? :-)

2/26/2011 10:57:58 AM


Hidden messages? Freddie says there were some, in Brian May's compositions. But, and this is the important bit, not in his own songs. You know, as in 'we are the Champions', the one you're seeing hidden messages in. http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Freddie_Mercury

2/26/2011 11:11:29 AM

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