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Influential Evangelical: Mideast Uprisings Violate Biblical Command

But from a biblical perspective, MacArthur maintained that the protesters are in violation of the biblical command to "submit to the powers that be because they're ordained of God."

"I would have wished the American government, which has a history of Christianity, would have risen up and said 'this is wrong, this is forbidden for people to do this, this is intolerable," he said.

"I'm not saying Moammar Gadhafi is the best leader; I’m not saying that Mubarak is a great, benevolent and just leader, not when he’s got $70 billion in his own pockets at the expense of people," he clarified.

But, he stressed, believers are commanded to live orderly, peaceful lives, subjecting themselves to whatever the government would be.

John MacArthur, Christian Post 73 Comments [2/27/2011 4:17:50 AM]
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"Believers" are commanded... that means Muslims and non-believers do whatever strikes them as best for themselves and their families.

Didn't your make-believe "Chrisian United States" begin with a revolution?

2/27/2011 4:37:50 AM

Horus IX

To paraphrase a saying I once heard:

"Good people who are indifferent to the politics of their own government are destined to be ruled by evil men."

Sorry...If I (or anyone else for that matter) just sat here behind my laptop all day, played my PlayStation 3 when nothing good was online at the time, and work...Then the U.S. would be a theocracy much like Iran or Libya.

2/27/2011 4:40:26 AM

John MacArthur is a bit stupid, really.

2/27/2011 4:43:20 AM

rubber chicken

I trust that Mr MacArtur is campaigning for Americas return to the British crown.

2/27/2011 4:46:18 AM

Raised by Horses

"Believers are commanded to live orderly, peaceful lives, subjecting themselves to whatever the government would be."

Fuck you.

2/27/2011 4:56:37 AM


"John MacArthur", would you tell that the 'Tea-Party' also? Stop protesting now, immediately. Live orderly, peaceful lives, subject yourself to whatever the government would be. Accept same-sex marriage. Pay taxes without complaining. Subject yourself to gun ownership restrictions. Accept Obamas health-care reform.

Or we go to the last consequence, and repeal your "Declaration of Independence". Enjoy being a british crown dependency again ...

2/27/2011 5:05:08 AM


Which history of Christianity is that? Seriously, America wasnt full of christians until the Puritains came after the Pilgrims.

Which reminds me, why do so many christians forget about us Native Americans? Manifest this destiny, assholes/.

2/27/2011 5:23:52 AM


Gaddafi uses mercenaries to gun down civilians and Mubarak has stolen enough money to fix a major economy. That shit is not flying with the people and that is why they marched on the streets. Fuck you and your quisling followers.

2/27/2011 5:29:34 AM


Considering that the primary theme of the Gospels is social justice, it baffles me that so many Christian websites advocate injustice.

2/27/2011 5:40:32 AM

Doctor Fishcake

Romans 13 getting milked for all it's worth again...

2/27/2011 6:16:30 AM


so moses should have stayed in egypt, gotcha.

2/27/2011 7:00:34 AM


Follow your ideas all the way through, fuckwit.
The American Founders, by revolting against the godly rule of King George III committed a horrendous sin against God.
Do you see the problem?

2/27/2011 7:04:00 AM


MacArthur does consider the American Revolution a sinful act, but now the U.S. government is the rightful authority.

2/27/2011 7:17:53 AM


Then I guess it's time for your "Christian America" to be part of the British Empire again.

2/27/2011 7:22:36 AM


"submit to the powers that be because they're ordained of God."

And just what would you expect a tool of coercion and control to say? "Bend over, and thou shalt supply the lube or go without" was a little too obvious.

2/27/2011 7:30:38 AM


By that logic, the eastern part of the United States would still be part of the British empire, and Russia and France would still be backwards feudalist monarchies. And what about Christ's disobedience of the Roman and Jewish authorities? They didn't execute him for nothing, you know.

2/27/2011 7:38:44 AM

Allegory for Jesus

Bullshit. As soon as he condemns any form of protest of government authority in America, as well as the American Revolution as also a violation of same command, then we'll talk.

2/27/2011 8:15:48 AM

Doubting Thomas

But, he stressed, believers are commanded to live orderly, peaceful lives, subjecting themselves to whatever the government would be.

Except when there's a pro-choice, pro-same-sex marriage, "Muslim" Democrat darkie in the White House.

2/27/2011 8:27:54 AM


Excuse me?
didn't your previous goverment just reduce an entire country to ashes to get rid of an evil dictator?
How about just once sitting back and keeping your nose out of this?
The entire arab world is buzzing like a hornet's nest already, the last thing it needs is American army stomping around.

2/27/2011 8:33:38 AM

Philbert McAdamia

O B E Y !

2/27/2011 8:40:27 AM

Jezebel's Evil Sister

Trouble is, John MacArthur is 100% correct. He IS expressing the biblical viewpoint (Romans 13). Yeah, it is stupid and all fu(ked up, but it IS biblical.

2/27/2011 8:47:33 AM


> But, he stressed, believers are commanded to live orderly, peaceful lives, subjecting themselves to whatever the government would be.

Yeah! That's why American fundies are always trying to repeal the Second Amendment, and are always saying how good things are under the Obama administration and that there's absolutely no reason for the religious people to interfere with the worldly politics in any capacity! Oh wait...

2/27/2011 8:54:50 AM


I want to see if he keeps that same philosophy when it's HIS leader that's an oppressive dick. Or better yet, if his leader tells him to stop being a Christian.

2/27/2011 8:57:28 AM


The U.S. may have had a history of Christianity, and Christianity had an influence on our politics for a long time, but it was never a Christian Nation.

EDIT: What about the American Revolution? We sure as hell didn't subject ourselves to British rule.

2/27/2011 8:58:08 AM

Quotidian Torture

Jegus. No wonder the Republican party panders to these guys. They're a ready made serf class, just ripe for the picking.

2/27/2011 8:58:20 AM

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