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According to verse 15, the “covering” referred to is long hair. Therefore, according to this passage, it is a shame and dishonor to Christ for a man to have long hair. There is no place in the Bible that even insinuates that Jesus had long hair. Sodomite homosexuals such as Michelangelo painted Jesus to look effeminate and to have long hair in order to make him fit their own queer image.

These same type of paintings have also given people the idea that “Jesus did not wear pants.” Some have even made utterly ridiculous and bizarre statements such as, “pants had not been invented yet,” or “they didn’t have pants back then.” According to these “scholars,” the men of the past who built the pyramids and Stonehenge just hadn’t thought of pants yet!

What I believe is based upon the Bible, not “historical evidence,” but the historical record also proves that men in the ancient Middle East wore pants. For example, at the famous battle of Thermopylae (480BC), every historian reports that the Persian (Iranian) soldiers were wearing pants down to their ankles, while the homosexual, perverted Spartans were wearing short skirts or even less!

Steven L Anderson, Steven L Anderson 91 Comments [2/28/2011 4:18:50 AM]
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Ludd

LOL You're a hilarious nutbag.

2/28/2011 11:53:20 AM

AuraTwilight

Did you just call Jesus a fag?

2/28/2011 12:39:50 PM

Flah

God hates long hair? What's the deal with Samson, then? Or does it not count because it's Old Testament?

2/28/2011 12:56:20 PM

farpadokly

Nauseating that the entire history of Western art can be so thoroughly bastardised and coarsened into that one bigoted line about Michelangelo. The rest of the post is also astoundingly ignorant.
The conflation of Persian warriors in the 5th century BC with ancient Israel centuries later is especially glaring.
And I found this (surprisingly accurate) description on a Christian website: "The clothing worn in Biblical times was very different from what we wear today. Both men and women wore a loose, woolen, robe-like cloak or mantle as an outer garment. It was fastened at the waist with a belt or sash. A tunic or coat, a long piece of cloth, leather or haircloth with holes for arms and head, was worn under the cloak. Sandals were worn on the feet."
No mention of trousers.

2/28/2011 1:05:42 PM

Black Jesus

I rode into town on an ass...

Yo mama's ass!

2/28/2011 1:11:02 PM

rikalous

@From the frozen north, Death cometh: The Spartan soldiers were institutionally gay. Sure, they married to pump out babies, but they were expected to form their romantic bonds with fellow soldiers. The logic was that they'd fight harder if their honeybunny's life was on the line.

2/28/2011 1:26:37 PM

Angua

I'm no expert on the fashions of first century Palestine, but this is fascinating. I think that trousers are more comfortable than skirts. I'm more likely to were pants than a skirt. I like pants too. But I am not freaking obsessed with them! Why is Steven L Anderson so fascinated with pants? Do someone's pants define their worth as a human being? Did a skirt kill his parents? Does he spend his days worshipping his first pair of blue jeans? Is he angry at Michelangelo for not giving David pants? Is he currently working on his magnum opus, A Brief History of Pants?

2/28/2011 1:49:13 PM

TheJebusFire

The earliest recording of "trousers" were mostly worn by ancient Persians around 6th century BCE. However, ancient Rome viewed the trousers as barbaric and they were banned there for quite some time (if my history is correct).

2/28/2011 2:31:52 PM

Old Viking

Well I remember a poem from my childhood, "They don't wear pants on the sunny side of France ..." Does this throw any light on the subject?

2/28/2011 2:49:52 PM

LAchlan

I think that Jeebuz would have looked a lot like this pretty cool guy here......
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/47944_434024341433_508061433_5748755_7965668_n.jpg

2/28/2011 2:56:36 PM

YesNoMaybe

I'm calling Poe.

2/28/2011 3:11:56 PM

casewithscience

Please do not take your history lessons from the movie 300.

2/28/2011 3:29:59 PM

HumMis1349

If long hair is homosexual, explain to me why Rob Halford's hair was never that long even when he had hair. If long hair is effeminate, explain Manowar.

2/28/2011 3:42:18 PM

Jeff Weskamp

Some have even made utterly ridiculous and bizarre statements such as, “pants had not been invented yet,” or “they didn’t have pants back then.”

I might be wrong, but I believe Julius Caesar described the Gauls and Celts as wearing trousers (which the Romans called "bracae," which is the source of another English word for pants, "britches"). And enclosed leggings of some sort were standard garb for the Scythians and Sarmatians.

So pants did exist during the time of Christ. But the Romans and Greeks looked down on them as "barbarian's garb," and people living in Judea probably didn't wear them because of the hot climate. I imagine robes would not only shield the body from the sun more effectively, they would allow air to circulate much more freely in one's nether regions than enclosed pants.

2/28/2011 4:25:42 PM

Evilution Teacher

Ok, men in short skirts and long hair - sissies, not masculine - check. 1. my highlander ancestors would like a word with you 2. and what does that make me as a heterosexual woman who thinks well muscled hairy legs in kilts are hot? I think Steven Anderson is either jealous that he couldn't pull it off - skinny man legs in kilts definitely not hot - or like others have posted he is a closet case.

EDIT: From his bio on the church website "He holds no college degree but has well over 100 chapters of the Bible memorized word-for-word, including approximately half of the New Testament." WOW! He has stuff memorized, neat. This verifies that he has no critical thinking skills - a must for a leader.

2/28/2011 4:26:25 PM

Fawful has seen God has a vagina on top of his penis.

"For example, at the famous battle of Thermopylae (480BC), every historian reports that the Persian (Iranian) soldiers were wearing pants down to their ankles, while the homosexual, perverted Spartans were wearing short skirts or even less!"

And even then the Spartans Greeks kicked their asses as much as they could before dying and retreating. Oh, did I mention that the Greeks overall shat up the "great" Persian's mouths not once but thrice?! Damn! That's how you roll in Ancient history!

2/28/2011 6:24:47 PM

LM

@YesNoMaybe

Sorry. This one's got a long and storied history of acting like a complete fucking retard.

2/28/2011 6:37:42 PM

HumMis1349

@1261957: Maybe that's because the Persians made the mistake of wearing their pants down to their ankles. It usually works better to pull them up to your waist.

2/28/2011 6:50:08 PM

Passerby

Men had long hair well into the 1800s. And if you believe in Adam and Eve neither of them wore anything at all until after the fall, shame oddly not being given to them by God but by the tree of knowledge. As for the Persians and Spartans the 'skirt' was a reference to a portion of armour that hung below the waist to provide protection to the rump and legs without compromising movement. They weren't frilly lace. I find your obsession with going through history books and picturing every man in them to be gay and imagining sweaty men in dresses a little disturbing. A kilt is a manly garment. They are made for men with fighting in mind. The idea that it's girly comes from an outsider's perspective with their own notions of fashion. Insult a Scotsman's family tartan at your peril. What a man should wear and what a woman should wear are entirely subjective to local cultures and whatever makes a fashion designer a quick buck.

2/28/2011 7:14:36 PM

The Lazy One

Oh god, it's this crazy fucker. Can't someone institutionalize him and his equally bonkers wife already?

For those of you who don't know, Steven Anderson is, unfortunately, not a Poe, and his church, Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe, AZ, is listed as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, and this crazy bastard might as well be Phred Phelp's long lost grandson.

You know why it's really common in the Middle East for people, male and female, to wear robes? BECAUSE IT'S REALLY FUCKING HOT THERE, AND ROBES ALLOW AIR TO FLOW.

Also, Stevie dude, I double-dog-dare you to go to a pub in Glasgow and tell the guys in there that wearing kilts makes you gay.

@Angua- I would read the hell out of A Brief History of Pants.

2/28/2011 7:38:27 PM

Alencon

The Spartans were homosexual? Where the fuck did you get that one from? You're not confusing them with the Theban Sacred Band are you?

Actually, don't believe what you see in movies like "300." one of the reasons (aside from better training and esprit de corps) that the Spartans gave the Persians such fits at Thermopylae was they had much heavier and better armor.

As far as Palestine in the first century, scholars generally agree that sandals, tunics and outer robes was the basic form of dress. They just didn't have the technology to easily make lots of pants like garments nor, given the warm climate, were they needed.


2/28/2011 7:47:56 PM

The Dude

Someone really needs to introduce this guy to the concept of Occam's Razor...His point comes about via a labyrinth of appropriated texts and some pretty anachronistic applications of cultural forms. Poor guy...

2/28/2011 8:31:17 PM

Panz

Well, the story about Samson in the bible sure seems to show God prefers men with long hair

2/28/2011 9:21:05 PM

Drax

Jesus was a skinhead!

'What I believe is based upon the Bible, not “historical evidence”'

Obviously.

2/28/2011 9:37:14 PM

Tolpuddle Martyr

Yes, there were people who wore pants around that time. They were called Celts-they looked like the guy in this picture; and I'm sorry that is not Conservative Jesus. This guy was most definitely a Heathen.


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