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[re: Washington's Birthday being called 'President's Day' as an example of "secularized language"]

Washington was a prominent Christian whose habit of praying and appealing to God for assistance is well-known. He was a kind of saint, and the downplaying of his (indisputable) significance is due to his Christianity. If he had been an atheist then you'd see the opposite effect.

"What kind of saint was George Washington?"

The kind that wins wars. There have been other examples. Have you heard of Joan of Arc?

"So which churches DO recognize Washington as a saint or other type of sacred being?"

Perhaps the church of Satan does, or perhaps atheists simply dislike Washington. Wouldn't that be enough to explain the misnaming of the holiday as described in this entry?
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Atheistic bias, like other forms of bias, seeks to downplay and minimize Christianity. Washington was a leading, accomplished Christian. Lincoln far less so, other presidents even lesser still, and the office of president not Christian at all. An atheistic bias pushes language from the Christian recognition to the more atheistic substitute.

Andy Schlafly, Conservapedia 91 Comments [3/1/2011 6:09:06 AM]
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WMTimothy

History fail. Washington was a deist who hardly went to church services.

3/1/2011 6:16:51 AM

Veras_the_Brujah

Wow... I actually feel bad for Andy Schlafly. The world he lives in must be a terrifying place. Teaching him that this is how the world works-- that there are atheists everywhere out to get him and his beliefs-- should almost be considered child abuse. Watching his descent into madness is actually kind of sad.

3/1/2011 6:19:54 AM

gravematter

A saint? You really need to feel that America's special in the eyes of god, don't you? Why not become a Mormon, since the whole point of their religion is basically people being unable to believe that God's Chosen Country (TM) didn't get a visit from Jebus.

3/1/2011 6:20:03 AM

Thrutch

Oh ... Andy Schlafly ... says it all, really

Washington was a heretic. He was a Deist and deists didn't believe in the divinity of Jesus and the divinely inspired nature of the bible.

Just remember kiddies; if Andy says it, it is untrue.

3/1/2011 6:20:54 AM

arctic knight

Wow, this guy has really gone off the deep end. I had no idea that Xians considered a man who was a deist at best to be a Xian.

3/1/2011 6:27:34 AM

Jezebel's Evil Sister

I'm old enough to remember that in elementary school we had a day off on or about February 12 for the birthday of Lincoln and then another day off on or about February 22 for Washington's birthday. I guess it finally dawned on some folks that there were a couple of other great presidents who should be honored, too ... but that school children already had too many holidays.

But, if Andy wants to believe it was some vast atheistic conspiracy, let him. It can't be fun to live with such unfounded fears. And I don't want Andy to have any fun, or even a moment of peace.

3/1/2011 6:33:53 AM

Mister Spak

Washington was a prominent deist who was in the habit of promoting American values and in no way a member of your little extremeist sect. Mostly because your extremeist sect hadn't been established yet.

3/1/2011 6:34:23 AM

Doubting Thomas

I thought it was called President's Day because we not only honored George Washington, but Abraham Lincoln as well? At least this was the case since I was a schoolkid in the 70's.

But this is just another case of fundies deifying (literally, in this case) the Founding Fathers.

3/1/2011 6:35:39 AM

Doctor Whom

Dear would-be Conservapedia trolls:

You needn't bother, since you just cannot outdo the real thing.

3/1/2011 6:51:41 AM

GigaGuess

So one minute, he calls Washington a saint, and the next, he says the only church that would venerate him is the Church of Satan.

One or the other, Andy...

3/1/2011 6:58:12 AM

dionysus

Washington was a prominent Christian whose habit of praying and appealing to God for assistance is well-known.

The Washington that famously stopped going to church because he couldn't sit through the whole mass and never mentioned Jesus in any of his writings? That Washington?

If he had been an atheist then you'd see the opposite effect.

Really? I don't see anyone clamoring to celebrate Jefferson's birthday.

Wouldn't that be enough to explain the misnaming of the holiday as described in this entry?

What misnaming? They combined the holidays because we have had a lot of great presidents and will probably continue to have great presidents. So rather than celebrate each of their birthdays there's a single holiday to pay tribute to them all.

Atheistic bias, like other forms of bias, seeks to downplay and minimize Christianity.

Says the man who thinks that black holes are an anti-Christian plot. Sorry if I don't quite put much stock in your opinions.

3/1/2011 7:19:01 AM

Mrs. Antichrist

Is there anything this ass won't trying to turn into an attack against Christianity?

3/1/2011 7:53:03 AM

aaa

Your deitification is creepy as hell.

3/1/2011 7:54:25 AM

breakerslion

Come clean Andy. Brains don't come out of the box damaged in that fashion. It was Methamphetamine, or E, or something like that, wasn't it? Or maybe your mom just prayed over a 105 degree fever a little too long? Whatever it was, you are seriously messed up and someone needs to have a long talk with you about it. Boundaries, dammit! Boundaries!

3/1/2011 7:59:00 AM

Horsefeathers

"Washington was a prominent Christian whose habit of praying and appealing to God for assistance is well-known."

From what I understand, Washington refused to go to church with his wife, with the exception of once a year on Christmas I believe--and she still had to drag him there.

I don't recall any accounts of Washington "praying," so to speak. Appeals to god of some sort wouldn't be all that strange given the time period and the fact that he was a Mason. That's a far cry from being a "prominent Christian" though.

"He was a kind of saint, and the downplaying of his (indisputable) significance is due to his Christianity."

First, he was no saint.

Second, who the hell is downplaying anything about Washington?

"If he had been an atheist then you'd see the opposite effect."

No, I'm pretty sure if he was an atheist or, as is true, some sort of deist or other, you'd see a bunch of fundamentalists Christians claiming he was second only to Jesus himself.

"The kind that wins wars. There have been other examples. Have you heard of Joan of Arc?"

The Joan d'Arc that goofy fuckers like you burned at the stake after she saved your asses? That Joan?

"Perhaps the church of Satan does, or perhaps atheists simply dislike Washington. Wouldn't that be enough to explain the misnaming of the holiday as described in this entry?"

You're a rube, Andy. Plain and simple.

3/1/2011 8:02:01 AM

Anon-e-moose

"Washington was a prominent Christian whose habit of praying and appealing to God for assistance is well-known"

Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli ring any bells?

Destroyed argument much, Andy?

"perhaps atheists simply dislike Washington."

No, for the aforementioned reason. Sure he was a Christian, but he knew where his real priorities lay.

Otherwise, he wouldn't have insisted in the Constitution that there be Separation of Church and State, and you'd have thought that - if his beliefs were that important to him - he'd have had at least one mention of the words 'God', Jesus' or at least 'Creator' therein. But there's not so much as one mention. Try it, Andy. Read it.

Obviously he considered that for such a sacred document - the very basis of your country - a Christian bias would be an infinitely worse substitute. It was precisely that reason why people like him had left England for the New World in the first place.

I love the smell of annihilated arguments in the morning. Smells like... victory.

3/1/2011 8:13:21 AM

TGRwulf

Andy, will please do us all a favor and finally shut the fuck up? It's blatantly obvious you have NO idea what you're talking about.

3/1/2011 8:18:20 AM



Dr. Shrinker

"'What kind of saint was George Washington?'"

"The kind that wins wars"

Okay then, what kind of saint was George Bush Jr.? The kind that acts impulsively, puts his country in a situation that cannot be won and leaves it in a state it will probably never fully recover from?

3/1/2011 8:20:00 AM

Mapar

Schlafly comment: auto-WTF

3/1/2011 8:30:23 AM

Passerby

I have no idea what point he's even trying to make.

3/1/2011 8:33:19 AM

Raised by Horses

Can you say 'begging the fucking question'?

For Schlafly, this is pretty mild. But the fact that utter nonsense like this can even be considered "mild" in comparison with other crazy talk is worrying indeed.

3/1/2011 8:35:20 AM



Someone forgot their Seroquel today.

3/1/2011 8:40:29 AM

Horus IX

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Shorter Definition: 4chan's /b/ for Conservative Right-Wing Christians.


Also: President's Day = Washington AND Lincoln's Birthdays in ONE day (since they are like only 4 or so days apart).

3/1/2011 8:46:38 AM

TB Tabby

Wow, do you ever fail history frorever. First off, Joan of Arc was hardly a winner of wars. Do you think that whole "burning at the stake" thing was how she celebrated her victory? Second, neither was Washington. He may have been good at inspiring people, but when it came to actually winning battles, he was hopeless. His military record was one defeat after another dating all the way back to his time as a British general fighting the French and Indian War.

3/1/2011 9:40:24 AM

Panz

*just fucking dies*

This was retarded

3/1/2011 9:49:34 AM
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