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From the very beginning, I was suspicious about this whole HIV story, and I didn't know in the beginning, but it didn't take long after some serious researchers had gotten into it and published their findings, it became obvious to me. You talk about a wacko theory, here it comes. There isn't even such a thing as HIV. HIV virus, standing for virus, doesn't even exist. It's -- think of what those letters stand for.

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So, that's what it is. It's an immunodeficiency, but there's no virus. The immunodeficiencies are caused by the treatment, the drugs that they give people to try and treat the AIDS. That's what kills the immune system. And what a shocking thought that is, that people who have an immune deficiency, maybe because of some other factor such as nutritional factors -- maybe -- you know, a lot of drug addicts develop this syndrome. Why? Well, we know that a drug addict traditionally has a terrible diet, and the drugs themselves are destructive of the immune system.

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And I'll just say one more thing and then let the real experts take over, is, my understanding is that all these pictures that you can find of the HIV or the virus are artist's renditions. There's never been a photograph, an electron microscope, or anything else that photographed a virus called HIV, mainly because it doesn't exist. It's theorized. It's a theoretical virus.

G. Edward Griffin, Media Matters 23 Comments [3/29/2011 9:27:00 AM]
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Flah

"And I'll just say one more thing and then let the real experts take over, is, my understanding is that all these pictures that you can find of the HIV or the virus are artist's renditions."

http://pathmicro.med.sc.edu/lecture/images/hiv_tm_em.jpg

First image that came up in a google search for HIV electron micrograph.

3/29/2011 9:50:41 AM

gravematter

Do you have any idea how difficult it is to isolate a virus? But there are plenty of images of cells affected by HIV. How do you really think that you're smarter than the scientists that dedicate their lives to the study and potential cure of HIV? You HIV-deniers are so dangerous, because you encourage HIV-sufferers to stop their treatment and believe that all they have to do is eat better or some drivel, because HIV is a myth.

3/29/2011 10:05:50 AM



Yeah, I'd let the real experts take over if I were you.

So, what quackery is this guy selling, anyway?

3/29/2011 11:42:44 AM

aaa

This sort of shit is why i propose giving you some of that HIV blood. Forcefully.

@#1272653: The sort that involves organic food and nothing else.

3/29/2011 11:43:05 AM

Brendan Rizzo

If you really think that, then inject yourself with blood from an AIDS patient.

3/29/2011 11:43:23 AM

Anon



Electromicrograph of HIV particles.

Your Argument Is Invalid.

3/29/2011 12:14:40 PM

Balthazar The Wise

That fool.

AIDS is caused by fagosexuals and their fag sex!

Oh, what about all the people who get it through heterosexual sex or blood transfusions or bad needles? Well...obviously they must have had a homosexual or bicurious thought or feeling at some point in their life! God will not be mocked!

/sarcasm

3/29/2011 12:27:32 PM

Pule Thamex

It's amazing the number of everyday items that are actually very dangerous. Of course, we are not told about the dangers because we are all taking part in an evil experiment and the governments of the world don't want to spook us, yet.

Some examples.

Actively participating in, or even lurking on, zomboid web sites can cause an outbreak of unusual brain farts in the credulous drooler.

A lack of education combined with a natural talent for utter stupidity combined even further with a compulsion to trolling and poe-ing can lead one to be quite convinced that ones thoughts and ideas deserve equal consideration with the thoughts of normals and humans.

Even the moronic dolt occasionally cherishes his freedom to be as thick as shit and lives a joyous life celebrating his own numptyness.

3/29/2011 1:26:05 PM

Misty

First, it's called google images. It's rather nice. Check it out.

Second, tell that to the ton of africans dying from that virus currently. Go ahead and tell them they're all drug addicts. I wonder if most of them even have the money to get drugs. I'd guess NO.

3/29/2011 9:27:33 PM

vaiyt

Explain why my country is full of married people and healthy teenagers getting HIV, then.

3/29/2011 11:14:37 PM

Jorma

So those millions of people that are too poor to get HIV medicine are just faking it?

3/30/2011 12:48:13 AM



My standard answer to this:
If there is no virus, i'm sure you won't object to a small injection of someones blood who is HIV-positive but has not yet received treatment.
If you're correct, it should do no harm, since no treatment is yet present, and we made sure that he is not on drugs and that your nutrition is fine.

3/30/2011 1:22:39 AM

nutbunny

The immunodeficiencies are caused by the treatment, the drugs that they give people to try and treat the AIDS. That's what kills the immune system.

But according to you they are given drugs to treat AIDS. So they already HAVE AIDS before they get the drugs.

3/30/2011 3:08:31 AM



And all it happens in AFRICA, the continent where nobody can isolate, not just a virus, ANYTHING(remember evola?)

3/30/2011 3:19:27 AM

Doubting Thomas

OK, Mr, Griffin, if you don't believe that the HIV virus exists, then go have unprotected buttsex with a bunch of random strangers or share a needle with someone who's HIV positive. Then get back with us in a few years and tell us how you're doing.

3/30/2011 6:31:17 AM

Raised by Horses


3/31/2011 1:50:20 AM

Jeff Weskamp

Well then, Mr. Griffin, if you're so certain about this, then I'm sure you won't mind being injected with a serum containing the micro-organisms you are convinced do not cause HIV or AIDS.....

3/31/2011 10:34:37 AM



So, no problem having blood from an infected HIV positive person or having unprotected sex?

4/2/2011 10:54:17 AM

Arts_Myth

And I'll just say one more thing and then let the real experts take over, is, my understanding is that all these pictures that you can find of the so-called other planets in our solar system are artist's renditions. There's never been a photograph, a telescope, or anything else that photographed a so-called planet, mainly because they don't exist. They're theorized. They're theorized bodies.

: : :

...take over, is, my understanding is that all these pictures that you can find of Obama's birth certificate are artist's renditions. There's never been a photograph, a photocopier, or anything else that has photographed a document called Obama's birth certificate, mainly because it doesn't exist. It's thorized. It's a theoretical document.

: : :

...take over, is, my understanding is that la, la, la, la, la! I can't hear you!

4/5/2011 1:59:39 PM



Aids was invented - it's man made. Not
caused by homosexuals. I know this for a fact. Created by American scientists in good ole TEXAS.

3/15/2012 6:01:38 PM



http://www.apfn.org/apfn/aids.htm
Aids the manufactured Virus!

3/15/2012 6:04:16 PM

Rabbit of Caerbannog

@#1382789 & #1382790

Oh FFS...


4/2/2013 8:40:51 AM



Maybe he's related to Snowflame.

4/12/2013 11:30:44 PM
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