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"Evolution is not a part of science, even though many scientists and people like that happen to be scientists."
Scientific scientist is scientific!
4/2/2011 2:13:43 PM
"Science and religion should not be made equal."
Wait, are we agreeing on something?!
4/2/2011 2:21:00 PM
Absolutely, science should not be on equal footing with religion; Science fact-checks, it actually advances its knowledge, expands its sphere of understanding and can admit errancy. You? You're still clinging to the same useless little book seventeen centuries after it was cobbled together out of a set of anecdotal nonsense written by goat-herders over the course of a few centuries. They threw away most of it at the start, and what was left over hasn't changed a bit in its errancy since.
Religion isn't on the same intellectual level as a child's first discovery that a hot thing will burn them; At least the child learns not to touch it after having their hand seared. Then again, I suppose given how brainburnt you are, it's a touch too late, Jeol.
4/2/2011 2:25:53 PM
In which way is evolution not science? Care to elaborate?
4/2/2011 2:27:48 PM
Nope, you're quite right there. Evolution is a huge part of biological science, Christianity is just a small part of Theological "science".
4/2/2011 3:14:08 PM
I don't think you know what "Scientific method" is.
4/2/2011 3:24:18 PM
Right and man also never set foot on the Moon. Listen, you can be in denial all you like and that's your right but your opinion doesn't change reality. I do agree with your last sentence though.
4/2/2011 3:55:39 PM
Science and religion should not be made equal.
They aren't. Science is taught in school science classes. Religion is taught in homes and churches. If your religion disagrees with science, go right ahead and teach that in your homes and churches, and let the schools go ahead and teach science.
4/2/2011 4:04:55 PM
Same topic? Really?
Tell me where, when, and how Christianity:
1.) Describes the change of allele frequencies in a population
2.) Has undergone vast amounts of testing and experimentation
3.) Has had articles appear in peer-reviewed scientific journals approving its validity
4.) Explains the fossil record
5.) Can be demonstrated in the laboratory
6.) Can be used to make scientific predictions that are later confirmed
7.) Has been used to make medical advances
8.) Explains the geographic distribution of species
9.) Explains the nested hierarchy of life
4/2/2011 4:05:07 PM
Many religions attribute storms and lightning to a demigod of some sort.
Therefor Meteorology is pretty much the same thing as Thor.
Different stories, same topic.
4/2/2011 4:05:20 PM
Slave to Uni
"...even though many scientists and people like that happen to be scientists."
I stopped reading right there. Jeol's obviously just another idiot that hasn't even looked at so much as a biology textbook since high school.
4/2/2011 4:07:23 PM
4/2/2011 4:16:48 PM
This pretty much tells me you are a moron.
Who cares what a moron has to say?
4/2/2011 4:23:20 PM
Evolution tells us life evolves. That's it. It doesn't tell us which days are holy. It doesn't tell us which fabrics to wear, or what animals to eat, or what group of people for us to hate. It doesn't have any rituals or priests or temples or dogma or means of worship. It has nothing to do with religion.
And best of all, it doesn't ask for faith, only that you look at the evidence.
4/2/2011 4:23:46 PM
Dammit, I dislike incoherent forum posts near my games. And Armor has some fun little puzzle games on it, too.
I'm sad now. I guess I'll just have to keep on not looking at their forum section.
4/2/2011 5:06:44 PM
"Science and religion should not be made equal."
And, they're not. One is a dodgy old heap of regional silliness for people who harbour anger and resentment in their hearts and who, curiously, think that they are worthless lumps of meat, and who are motivated by dogmatic strictures. The other is an evidential way of finding out about things that is motivated by curiosity and the search for truth.
4/2/2011 5:16:59 PM
I agree. Science and religion should not be made equal.
4/2/2011 5:18:38 PM
Don't be stupid.
Also, I really wish that people on this site would stop using 'goat-herder' as a pejorative! Not many pastoralists are likely to read this site and be offended, granted, but it's just...rude. And unfair. Especially when you alternate it with 'goat-fucker' as if they were pretty much the same thing.
People in the real world still live by herding goats and sheep. They work very hard and are frequently persecuted by modern governments, but they value the freedom they have as nomads who own their own capital.
Besides. It's not even accurate a lot of the time, like here with TWoozle. The Tanach may have been largely assembled by pastoralists, but early Christianity, like early Islam, was a city religion.
I really hate what vicious idiots the people on what's supposed to be the intelligent liberal side sound so often.
4/2/2011 5:31:27 PM
4/2/2011 6:29:19 PM
True statement, they should not be equal, science should trump religion every time.
4/2/2011 6:33:01 PM
Percy Q. Shunn
4/2/2011 6:48:56 PM
Charles Darwin, he don't like black
Invented evolutions to hold us back
4/2/2011 6:49:35 PM
"even though many scientists and people like that happen to be scientists"
As soon as I read that, I knew this was going to be good.
4/2/2011 7:41:16 PM
I'm always intrigued by Christians who equate evolutionary science with faith.
They relentlessly quote Darwin as the end-all of evolutionary theory, placing evolutionary theorists' views of his writings up on a scale of infallibility equal to that of their own Bible.
They seem to need to do this so they can reject evolution as the teachings of one man. For some reason they can't fathom that "The Origin of the Species" is not "the" book on evolution, but just the start.
They think that any contradiction to any part of "The Origin of the Species" means that evolutionary theory is disproven, as a whole.
That logic may apply to their Bible, but no part of science is end-all or infallible. Scientific theory is always subject to change, development and progress, and usually ends up contradicting its roots at some time.
That's what makes it a science and not a faith.
But that's the point. That's what they can't understand. They can only plot faith against a faith.
Stay dumb folks, just please don't bother me with your stupidity.
4/2/2011 7:47:06 PM
"Evolution is not a part of science". Um, yeah it is.
@Amadaun: I agree with you mostly but the thing about those pastoral nomadic cultures, out of which the Abrahamic religions sprang, is that they tend to be very patriarchal and rigid, with a very defined "in-group" and "out-group" and you can see that social structure reflected very adversely in their religions. Hence pejorative references to "goat-herders" etc. It's a way of saying that, in some ways, those cultures were not very morally advanced.
4/2/2011 8:41:38 PM
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