Wally #fundie

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There is homosexuality in animals. There are also some animals that change sex - clown fish - according to demographic of the specie.

But then its not about nature, we already know it is corrupted and survives by death.

No, it is about a Creator. One who identifes the corruption due to sin and has redeemed man from death and made a way to eternal life.

If only you believe Him.

As far as eviloution, I find it impossible to believe male and female evolved from asexual creatures. I mean really.

Just think of the embarrasement at the amoeba prom being voted most likely to succeed.... without a partner.

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old comment by dionysus

There is homosexuality in animals. There are also some animals that change sex - clown fish - according to demographic of the specie.

But then its not about nature

This happens in nature ergo it's a part of nature.

we already know it is corrupted and survives by death

Survives by death? What the hell is that even supposed to mean?

No, it is about a Creator. One who identifes the corruption due to sin and has redeemed man from death and made a way to eternal life.

If only you believe Him.

Why? Why does this supposedly omnipotent entity care about the opinion of some random person (me)? Is he that insecure? And no, it's NOT just believing in him that supposedly gets you into heaven. There are a whole bunch of rules that you have to follow too and I find it dishonest when proselytizers tell others that it's as simple as just believing. It's like those web sites that advertise that they have free membership but you don't get to use any of the features on the site until you pay.

As far as eviloution, I find it impossible to believe male and female evolved from asexual creatures. I mean really.

Argument from personal incredulity. Reality doesn't give a shit about what you find believable or about your inability to understand the Theory of Evolution.

Just think of the embarrasement at the amoeba prom being voted most likely to succeed.... without a partner.

Not half as embarrassing as when you went there and the amoebas voted you most likely to fail. And it appears that they were correct.

old comment by Xotan

There is homosexuality in animals.

=== You don't say! Strange that you at last noticed.

There are also some animals that change sex - clown fish - according to demographic of the specie.

=== Specie is not a word. You mean species. It's bot singular and plural. A most unnatural word.

But then its not about nature, we already know it is corrupted and survives by death.

=== Survives by death? Death=Life? Are we talking about vampires here?

No, it is about a Creator. One who identifes the corruption due to sin and has redeemed man from death and made a way to eternal life.

=== Evidence for Creator, sin, redemption, eternal life, please.

If only you believe Him.

=== Evidence.

As far as eviloution, I find it impossible to believe male and female evolved from asexual creatures. I mean really.

Just think of the embarrasement at the amoeba prom being voted most likely to succeed.... without a partner.

old comment by Angua

Okay, let's clear up a few things.

1.) The only reason anyone bothers to point out that you find homosexuality in nature is because homophobes keep on saying that homosexuality is unnatural. In other words, we are pointing out that this objection to homosexuality has no basis in reality. We are not saying that homosexuality is good because it is natural. Whether it is natural or not is irrelevant to whether or not homosexuality can be considered moral.

2.) Nature is amoral. There are plenty of good things found in nature and plenty of bad things found in nature. You can't turn around and say that if homosexuality is found in nature then it must be bad because nature is corrupt. Heterosexuality is also found in nature. By the same logic, it must be equally corrupt.

3.) You are therefore correct to say that this is not about nature. However, it's even more wrong to say this is about a creator. I at least have empirical evidence that the natural world exists. At least if I make the is/ought fallacy there, I'm basing the fallacy on something that I know is real. However, you are saying that because you think a being that you have no empirical evidence for feels a certain way about what some people do in the bedroom, that these people are immoral sinners.

4.) Yes, males and females can evolve. Not only can they evolve, but they have. Sex has evolved. We can find animals that don't show as clear of a separation between the sexes. We can find animals that are hermaphrodites or can change sex. You yourself mentioned clownfish.

5.) How can someone too stupid to spell the word "evolution" correctly know that about clown fish? I'd say that this has got to be an April Fool's joke. Except if it is, it's not a very good one. And it's from Rapture Ready.

old comment by TWoozl

Emotional appeal? Check.

Slitting his wrists with Occam's razor? Check.

Unfounded claim nature is corrupt (Same nature "created by God"? Does not compute), rather than nature is nature, and these things happen through natural behaviors as a matter of necessity, Check.

All on the basis of a single Old Testament line, when fundamentalists ignore the same sermon's admonishments against covetous behavior, blended fibers and other nonsense? Check.

Oh, wait. It's Rapture Ready. They're this out of touch with reality all the time. Just make the next step and go the route of Jonestown; Put the rest of the world out of its misery in dealing with you.

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part one

"There is homosexuality in animals."

Correct, you get a gold star.

"There are also some animals that change sex - clown fish - according to demographic of the specie."

Yes, there are animals that can change sex. Yes, the clown fish is one of them. However, the incorrect usage of "demographic" and misspelling of "species" nullifies the above. Therefore you receive no gold star, sorry.

"But then its not about nature, we already know it is corrupted and survives by death."

Wrong, it is about nature. Everything is about nature. Just because you believe something you read in an ancient text of fiction doesn't automatically make it true. How can something live if it is dead. Quite the contradiction. One of the gold stars awarded is to be taken from you.

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part two

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No, it is about a Creator. One who identifes the corruption due to sin and has redeemed man from death and made a way to eternal life."

Wrong, bye-bye second gold star. I'll ignore the possible typo "identifes". Your dogma has nothing to do with it.

"If only you believe Him."

No, I don't. Neither should you, especially if it is affecting your ability to understand the world around us. You receive a frowning face.

"As far as eviloution, I find it impossible to believe male and female evolved from asexual creatures. I mean really."

Okay, I'm losing my patience with you. It is spelled "evolution". I figured you are trying to put the popular "evil" in there, but still couldn't quite get it right. Just because you find something difficult to understand or believe, does not make it false. One dunce cap and chair in the corner awarded.

"Just think of the embarrasement at the amoeba prom being voted most likely to succeed.... without a partner."

Opening a dictionary every once and awhile is a good thing. I am taking this as tongue in cheek humor. Even so, you sir, have qualified for the swift kick in the crotch award. Please show up at any biology class to have it administered. ( My aged English/grammar teacher would like to assist as well. )

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