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Is it reasonable to assume that the sun has remained in a constant state of heat outpul for the past 4.5 billion years? Given the second law of thermodynamic, i.e., the law of increasing entropy, I'm finding it very difficult to just assume that everything as been stable for that length of time. What sort of theory of stellar evolution would allow the Sun to be in a constant state for 4.5 billion years?... I think such a theory would defy all known laws of physicis.

Springer, Evolution Fairytale Forum 14 Comments [10/3/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Darth Wang

There's a lot of fuel for nuclear fusion there. It takes billions of years to exhaust.

10/4/2005 12:27:32 AM

TDR

possibly, Springer is right.

possibly, if we only consider all the known laws of physics. Known to HIM, that is.

10/4/2005 1:30:40 PM

Darth Wang

That's easy to disprove, Yahweh. It's been experimentally confirmed in the laboratory that hydrogen atoms compressed closely enough will fuse into helium atoms, and the mass of the sun is enough to produce that pressure at the center, and mass spectrometer readings show that the sun is made up of mostly hydrogen and helium. Of course, tell a fundie to put 2 and 2 together and they'll end up with 666.

10/6/2005 3:57:31 AM

CousinTed

This fellow and his fellow YEC ilk needs to listen to \"Why does the Sun Shine\" by They Might Be Giants:

\"The sun is a mass of incandescent gas
A gigantic nuclear furnace
Where hydrogen is built into helium
At a temperature of millions of degrees
Yo ho, it's hot
The sun is not
A place where we could live
But here on Earth there'd be no life
Without the light it gives

We need its light
We need its heat
We need its energy
Without the sun,
Without a doubt,
There'd be no you and me

The sun is a mass of incandescent gas
A gigantic nuclear furnace
Where hydrogen is built into helium
At a temperature of millions of degrees

The sun is hot
(It is so hot that everything on it is a gas. Iron, copper, aluminium, and many others.)
The sun is large.
(If the sun were hollow, a million Earths could fit inside, and yet, the sun is only a middle-sized star.)
The sun is far away
(About ninety-three million miles away, and that's why it looks so small.)
And even when it's out of sight, the sun shines night and day.

The sun gives heat
The sun gives light
The sunlight that we see
The sunlight comes from our own sun's atomic energy

Scientists have found that the sun is a huge atom-smashing machine. The heat and light of the sun come from the nuclear reactions of hydrogen, carbon, nitrogen, and helium.*

The sun is a mass of incandescent gas
A gigantic nuclear furnace
Where hydrogen is built into helium
At a temperature of millions of degrees\"

10/7/2005 1:57:49 AM

TDR

I've never heard that song and that is the coolest thing I've ever heard. My god. Must go and get an album right now.

10/19/2005 7:17:19 PM

Bio

Try the \"Speed Metal\" version from \"Severe Tire Damage\"

10/31/2005 9:48:29 PM

cyborgtroy

No it probably isn't reasonable to assume that.

5/9/2008 1:55:25 PM

Alethe

Let me put it this way.

The Earth (yes, our whole effin' PLANET) can easily fit about a million times in the Sun. That's a really, really big nuclear reactor. And it does, therefore, takes an awfully long time until it needs a top-up.

5/9/2008 2:17:14 PM

Quantum Mechanic

"physicis(sic)."

Whatever that is.

10/11/2008 5:57:41 PM

ozznova

It probably hasn't been generating the same amount of heat it is outputting now for the past 4.5 billion years, no.

It takes a while for it to heat up . . . it being the size of THE SUN.

10/11/2008 7:00:55 PM

Canadiest

What the hell would he know of cosmic dynamics? The scientists say this is sound physics, I'm inclined to believe those who are qualified and study these things then those who aren't.

"I think such a theory would defy all known laws of physicis"

you know nothing of physics, you can't even spell it

10/12/2008 3:30:11 PM

Darwin

"I think such a theory would defy all known laws of physicis."

Um, actually it confirms them.

10/14/2008 12:46:55 AM

Sentry Gun

When the gas tank is full, the motor runs for long.

Same here.

12/26/2011 4:57:49 AM

Anon

B Squared F H.

Your Argument Is Invalid.

(for those who haven't taken stellar structure, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B2FH_paper).

12/26/2011 12:03:19 PM
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