Quote# 80431

A man and a woman have absolutely positively NO RIGHT AT ALL to engage in any kind of sexual intercourse until they are properly married both in the eyes of the Church and in the eyes of God. God instituted sex for marriage and that's where it belongs.

Fornication is carnal union between an unmarried man and an unmarried woman. It is gravely contrary to the dignity of persons and of human sexuality which is naturally ordered to the good of spouses and the generation and education of children. Moreover,it is a grave scandal when there is corruption of the young.

Lust is disordered desire for or inordinate enjoyment of sexual pleasure. Sexual pleasure is morally disordered when sought for itself,isolated from it's procreative and unitive purposes.

Michael Voisinet, Facebook 90 Comments [4/5/2011 3:04:26 AM]
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Mrs. Antichrist

On the other hand, fornication is awesome.

4/5/2011 3:12:54 AM


If the only purpose of sex is the generation of children, does that mean the elderly shouldn't be allowed to marry?

I'm trying to figure it out: are you unable to get it up, or is no woman willing to sleep with you?

4/5/2011 3:40:57 AM


Why do I get the feeling that Mike has a lot of issues when it comes to physical intimacy...

4/5/2011 3:58:22 AM


I see, so how about a man and a man? You're cool with that? I see you didn't mention it...right? Okay then, glad to have your approval.

Oh, and for the record, trying to control human sexuality will do nothing but blow up in your face, and speed along the downfall of your belief system.

4/5/2011 4:00:44 AM

Percy Q. Shunn

4/5/2011 4:12:41 AM

Mikey ain't gettin' any!!!

Also, by his logic the elderly and the infertile have no right to marriage since they cannot procreate. (This is the same faulty argument used against gay marriage.) Yet, there are plenty of childless hetero marriages so... YOU FAIL, MIKEY!!!

4/5/2011 4:21:11 AM

Doctor Whom

I take it you're not getting any, except from Father Badtouch.

4/5/2011 4:32:06 AM


Me thinks he doth protest too much.

4/5/2011 4:50:16 AM

Mister Spak

Religion is a disordered desire to be stupid.

4/5/2011 4:54:53 AM

Maybe the reason you derive no pleasure from sex is because you're having heterosexual sex and you might be homosexual? Just food for thought.

4/5/2011 5:07:51 AM


It's because of shitty dogma like this that I was afraid to have sex all through high school and college and all the way up until I stopped believing. I missed out on what could have been some good experiences if it wasn't for me being utterly terrified that I'd be sent to hell for them. Now, I despise the concept of threats of eternal torture but I can at least somewhat sympathize when it's used to discourage murder, rape, and destruction but what the fuck did making me afraid of sharing a fun, consensual, pleasurable experience with another person accomplish?

4/5/2011 5:11:03 AM

Jack Bauer

I do not recall Adam and Eve getting hitched.

4/5/2011 5:28:54 AM

D Laurier

For most of human history marriage has been a privlege of kings.
Poor people only started marrying a couple hundred years ago.
The church was the strongest holdout against alowing commoners to marry, only agreeing when the state promised to make peasants pay a fee to the church.

4/5/2011 5:33:54 AM


I highly doubt you personally have the right to dictate what 'god' said about who can do what with their own body.

4/5/2011 5:40:34 AM


God instituted sex for marriage? Really? You'd think it'd work the other way around: "Oh, look at those humans boinking each other till the cows come home. Maybe I should try to apply some restrictions?" Not: "Huh, I got these humans to pair off, but they aren't actually reproducing! Hey! You! Married people! Sex each other up!"

I'm just saying sex probably came before the concept of marriage.

4/5/2011 5:54:59 AM

Doubting Thomas

And yet, a recent study has shown that virtually everyone has sex before marriage, Christians included.

I'll probably never understand why Christians think they can or need to control everyone's sex lives.

4/5/2011 5:57:12 AM


That may all be true, but it's fucking awesome. You should try it sometime.

4/5/2011 5:58:58 AM


> unitive purposes

Oh, wow, the puritans have discovered a new small smart-sounding word which they can use as a new loophole!

"Erm... yes, I engaged in a hideous amount of Sexual Activity while I was there, but it was for purely unitive purposes!"

(And, of course, it's weird how it's never explained how sex outside marriage can't be "unitive".)

4/5/2011 6:26:57 AM


At least he didn't make it all about how bad women are for having premarital sex. The double standard pisses me off. He wants everyone to suffer sexual frustration equally.

4/5/2011 6:53:07 AM

Raised by Horses

Gee, I wonder which came first, sexual reproduction or marriage?

4/5/2011 7:05:50 AM


Dude needs to get laid.

4/5/2011 7:07:02 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Is this guy Catholic? Both his name and the style of his rhetoric suggest so. So any fundies suggesting that Catholics aren't "True Christians"TM merely have to read this and see how much they agree with it. I bet they never would have even suspected that they themselves were heretics for agreeing with this man!

4/5/2011 7:31:58 AM

Jessica Albatross

Funny how the people who are purportedly so against sex are the most obsessed with it. I'll bet this jackwagon is one of those guys who says women should dress "modestly" otherwise it's her fault if he gets a boner from looking at her.

4/5/2011 7:33:06 AM

Michael Voisinet needs to get laid. A lazy afternoon of emotionally fulfilling, enjoyable sex with a woman he trusts would probably change his attitude about "carnal unions". Sex is awesome and it's one of the most amazing components of human life.

4/5/2011 7:35:05 AM


"A man and a woman have absolutely positively NO RIGHT AT ALL" tl;dr...

'People Are Still Having Sex' by LaTour:



'Have you noticed
That people are still having sex?
All the denouncement
Had absolutely no effect.
Parents and councillors
Constantly scorn them,
But people are still having sex
And nothing seems to stop them.

Do you realise
That people are still having sex?
They've been told not to,
Perhaps they are perplexed.
When you see them holding hands
They are making future plans
To engage in the activity;
Do you understand me?

People are still having sex.
Lust keeps on lurking.
Nothing makes them stop;
This AIDS thing's not working.

People are still having sex;
It's been going on for quite a while.
Perhaps it is quite fashionable.
It hasn't gone out of style.

It's a fact that people are still having sex;
It's rather obvious--
It's just what one expects.
The evidence is all around
That everyone in everytown
Has had it at one time or another in their life.

At this very moment,
People are still having sex.
In a downtown condo
Or a street in the projects.
Even though you can't see them
Or hear their breathing sounds,
Someone in this world
Is having sex right now.

People are still having sex.
People are still having sex.
People are still having sex.
People are still having sex.

Sex, sex, sex, sex, sex...'

Deal with it.

4/5/2011 7:38:50 AM

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