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If citizens are not allowed to discriminate in any way with regard to out-of-the-closet homosexuals, then there is no basis for denying those involved in sexual perversion the right to adopt and teach children, marry one another, be policemen or medics, serve in the armed forces, be elected officials and judges, work for you, and rent from you. It is because of the no-special-rights approach that we now have open homosexuals involved in many activities from which they should have been banned, and principled property owners and businessmen are required by law in many states to rent to and employ persons of low moral character engaged in immoral conduct which flies in the face of the deepest beliefs of the landlords and employers.

Pastor Ralph Ovadal, Life & Liberty Ministries 68 Comments [4/9/2011 3:05:12 AM]
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Fpqxz

A lot of the people in the positions you just mentioned (police, military, judiciary, politics, academia) are doing things which are far, far worse than being gay. Why don't you focus your energy on stopping that stuff instead of worrying about what consenting adults do in their own bedrooms.

4/9/2011 3:20:24 AM

nutbunny

Yes

However, you interpret this negatively.

Therefore there is something wrong with YOU.

4/9/2011 3:28:48 AM

Cid Highwind

Awww, so the poor poor landlords have to rent out to the EVIL GAYS and can't tell them off? Tell you what, as long as I pay my rent, don't damage anything and don't do anything illegal, it's none of the landlords business what I do in my bedroom. Same goes for employers, as long as I do my job, it's none of his business what I do in my free time and with whom I decide to spend my life. Why do you always care so much about what other people do in their beds? It's none of your business either.

4/9/2011 3:35:13 AM

StoneSpiral

It's people like this that make me hide anything 'different' about myself when I try to get medical care, car repairs, a new apartment or a job.. Just in case.

4/9/2011 3:45:31 AM

Raised by Horses

I give him two weeks before his big sex scandal.

4/9/2011 3:58:06 AM

Anon2

principled property owners and businessmen are required by law in many states to rent to and employ persons of low moral character engaged in immoral conduct

I view fundie christianity as something of low moral character, and fundamentalist christians to be engaged in immoral conduct. Does that mean as a landlord, I can deny to rent an apartment to these kind of persons?

4/9/2011 4:20:00 AM

Canadia

Hey, you've got a point, there's no basis for discrimination in this case. It's swell, isn't it?

4/9/2011 4:39:38 AM

Mudak

1. Sexual perversion does not always mean homosexuality and vice versa. (Although I will concede that anyone -- straight or gay -- can be a perv all the same.)

2. There's a time and a place fir everything, including perversity. Why should my perversity have any influence over anything else, when it's not the right time for it?

3. if I don't do any damage to my landlord's physical property, who cares what kinky games I might play there with other consenting adults?

4/9/2011 4:41:14 AM

Doctor Whom

My partner served in the armed forces and even went to war. Would you prefer he had stayed home? Would you have volunteered to go in his place?

4/9/2011 4:53:17 AM

BeemerRefugee1990

Aw, not gettin' any, Pastor?

I WONDER WHY

4/9/2011 5:06:11 AM

Swede

The definitions of sexual perversion, low moral character and immoral conducts vary in society. You don't have the final word on this, my definition is just as valid as yours.

Sexual perversion to me are things like rape, child abuse, infidelity, trafficking and the parts of prostitution that are more like sexual slavery.
Low moral character and immoral conduct to me are things like strong egoism, disrespect, antipathy, hatred, vengeance, discrimination.

But you're absolutely right in that there is no basis for denying homosexuals the same rights as heterosexual.
Good to finally have that settled!

4/9/2011 5:27:43 AM

John_in_Oz

The behaviour you endorse is far more immoral than that which you decry.

4/9/2011 5:33:43 AM

John

"If citizens are not allowed to discriminate in any way with regard to Negroes, then there is no basis for denying those involved in miscegenation the right to adopt and teach white children, marry white women, be policemen or medics, serve in the armed forces, be elected officials and judges, work for you, and rent from you. It is because of the no-special-rights approach that we now have Negroes involved in many activities from which they should have been banned, and principled property owners and businessmen are required by law in many states to rent to and employ persons of color which flies in the face of the deepest beliefs of the landlords and employers."

Pastor Ralph Ovadal's Grandpa, c. 1950

4/9/2011 5:54:12 AM

Pule Thamex

I suppose that's the sort of thing we can expect from a primitive Godist. After all, he's only carrying out his deity's will. Perhaps nobody has told him that God doesn't exist and that he's only jerkishly responding to a fantasy.

4/9/2011 6:02:05 AM

Matante

Hey Ralph, you want to delete the second sentence. First it's ridiculously long and kind of hard to read, second, if you'd stop after the first, you'd actually sound smart!

4/9/2011 6:34:46 AM

Xotan

The state has no right to spoil my private inquisition and my right to torture and kill those of whom I disapprove!

4/9/2011 6:39:06 AM

md

hmm, this from the Life and LIBERTY ministry.

Another fundie self awareness fail.

4/9/2011 6:58:36 AM

Hasher

Boo hoo, poor little bigots!

4/9/2011 7:24:57 AM



Wait, since when are you allowed to discriminate people you don't like?. Since NEVER, as far as I know.

4/9/2011 7:26:08 AM

Fundies Make Me Sick

Upset because you're not allowed to be a bigot and treat homosexuals as subhuman anymore? Get over it.

4/9/2011 7:35:56 AM

TheJebusFire

Were also forced to employ bigots like you.

4/9/2011 9:19:09 AM



Ted Faggard MK II in the making!

4/9/2011 9:44:13 AM

aaa

What are the odds that he thinks more about gay sex than most gay people?

4/9/2011 9:53:32 AM

Kisare

yes...yes....not a sexual perversion but still good....."no-special-rights" ignorable.....and it goes downhill from there.

So close, yet still missing the point.

4/9/2011 9:59:11 AM

exiteditor

.... You say that as if it's a bad thing.

4/9/2011 10:02:16 AM
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