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#1404723
Filin De Blanc
"God is the only one who possesses intrinsic worth,"
Says who?
5/18/2012 4:59:27 PM
#1422612
Imp
You know how some atheists think that God as told in the Bible was evil? That makes it kind of hilarious that fundamentalists are convinced that God is even more evil than they do.
7/11/2012 10:21:41 AM
#1423035
If a parent, say, murders their child, we condemn them.
This is because the child was a person, with thoughts and feelings of their own. They could not be said to 'belong' to their parents; they were an individual.
The same is true of god. Our lives have value, which is why we condemn those murderers, creation does not justify our destruction, hence the above example, and we do not belong to your morally bankrupt god, again illustrated by my example. He does not have the right -- assuming he exists, which I do not believe -- to take our lives, and such an act is morally reprehensible to all reasonable people.
7/12/2012 12:59:23 PM
#1423083
hmm, what to say .. lets see
... I dunno .....
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD !!!
yup...
7/12/2012 4:45:56 PM
#1425284
Snarker
But if god has no creator, then doesn't that make him worthless?
7/18/2012 8:51:42 PM
#1431933
Fenrirson
Blame not the God for the ignorance or outright stupidity of the follower, but take heart that in the end they must answer for what they have done in life to said Diety
8/7/2012 11:14:55 AM
#1444632
Quantum Mechanic
Sorry, your imaginary friend is just that.
9/7/2012 10:55:25 AM
#1498370
Quantum Mechanic
bullshit
1/24/2013 9:19:42 PM
#1499835
JW
One who thinks that God's glory is worth the death and suffering of billions of people has too high an opinion of himself.
Fixed.
1/29/2013 2:59:13 AM
#1500167
Blarghonius
When it comes down to fact, what fundies like to call "absolute morality" is really more arbitrary than any human could replicate, with such hits as "Don't kill unless I tell you to" and "Don't wear clothes of mixed materials" and "Don't eat shellfish right now, but you can in a thousand years or so. Why? Who cares? I'm bigger than you.".
1/29/2013 6:38:13 PM
#1506328
LAchlan
Sounds like a bit of a big-head then.
2/16/2013 8:09:03 AM
#1510649
Jinn
Wow, just got inspiration to write some cosmic horror...
2/28/2013 11:27:27 AM
#1518555
Skyknight
For the record, the link above no longer works because it looks like Cheung consolidated his writings into a few large .pdfs. "The Problem of Evil" is now a chapter of "Author of Sin".
http://www.vincentcheung.com/books/authorsin.pdf
EDIT: @1423035 Unfortunately, it looks like Cheung anticipated you. According to him, our every thought is specifically planned and activated by God. The horrifically baleful ones included. And he actually says at one point that we have a moral duty not to sin, even if he expressly made that impossible for any given person! Shouldn't be much of a surprise that he deems moral responsibility to be presupposed by divine sovereignty, not free will, the existence of which he thinks would undermine God's omnipotence.
And yes, in the first parts of that aggregate, Cheung gives what he thinks is why God created reprobates with no intention of letting them even think of atoning. It's so the elect have a way to see his wrath in action, and thus be able to glorify that part of him along with everything else.
3/23/2013 10:13:39 AM
#1533349
Andrew Sphunks
But God does value his creatures!
Matthew 10:28-31
29 Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground outside your Father’s care. 30 And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. 31 So don’t be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows.
And that's just one verse out of many which I am too lazy (admittedly) to recount. Some Christian you are. You give God a bad name.
4/30/2013 7:08:54 AM
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