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(Reposted in Hysterical Marissa)
[4/27/2011 3:19:20 AM]
Fundie Index: 66
Submitted By: WickedWitch
I admit that some of what you said is true, especially the bit about voicing ones opinions. You are right, that being posted on FSTDT doesn't in the least change his right.
But, even if its appeal to emotion (and of toys to top it off) i just can't see whats so, fundie about that. Furthermore, if i take a look at the picture above i fail to see the difference, yet no one in his right mind would call it fundie, even if it is as devoid of any logical argument as this sad toy ad.
Also, the "learn to read part" in capslock was not really necessary. Strangely i am not upset. Maybe because this is the internet and we all have learned to deal with it, but there really is no reason to argue like that after you have voiced your contempt for fallacious arguments.
4/28/2011 3:33:53 AM
Wow. Seriously, WOW. I am genuinely shocked. I don't mean to sound pompous but you never see this sort of thing in Australia so I am just..I mean this is...this is just...Wow.
4/28/2011 4:05:29 AM
Let me spell this out to you:
"Fundamentalism" is a movement that places great emphasis on the strict and often literal adherence to a set of basic principles. The beliefs of die-hard Christians often fall into this category. Die-hard Christians also commonly take a "pro-life" stance on the issue of abortion because, in strict adherence to their chosen set of principles, they believe that the aborted blastocysts did in fact have "souls" and therefore were people in the eyes of god rather then microscopic bundles of cells. This view is a fundamentalist one.
Taking this newfound knowledge into consideration you will surely have no problem understanding why this billboard is fundie. If, however, you are still unsure as to exactly how offensive and insensitive this is then there simply is no hope for you.
4/28/2011 4:24:51 AM
Special toys for aborted babies?
4/28/2011 6:56:20 AM
Though, abortion is not a laughing matter, this made snort my coffee through my nose ....
4/28/2011 7:33:10 AM
I really doubt that toy manufacturers determine how many toys they should make based on the number of potential children. They probably determine their stock based on numbers of *actual* children.
If we suddenly stopped aborting and all potential children became actualized, then there wouldn't be nearly enough toys to go around.
Do these people have no shame--wanting children to go toyless?
4/28/2011 7:37:34 AM
Ugh. In Toronto.
Even stupider; The number of children born per year continues to rise despite the supposed hundred thousand abortions. So yeah, there won't be any fewer NEW children, either.
4/28/2011 11:13:07 AM
Allegory for Jesus
Wow, Arbiter. "Fetuses are Children and abortions make toys cry!" is equivalent to "There is
no god, let's get on with our lives already"? Kind of gotta factor in reasonability into the equation, ya know.
4/28/2011 11:29:48 AM
Fundies Make Me Sick
So. Pathetic. That is all.
4/28/2011 1:17:11 PM
Woot!! Thats more toys for those of us who didn't get aborted!!!!!!
4/28/2011 1:24:25 PM
This is officially THE MOST PATHETIC anti-abortion ad I've EVER seen.
I mean, there's the whole "OMG THINK OF THE CHILDRENZZZ!!!" argument, but... "OMG THINK OF THE TOYZZZ!!!"?
They'll have a hard time getting any lower than this.
4/28/2011 4:24:26 PM
Niagara Region hasn't used the 416 area code since 1993. This is an old photograph. Also, in 2006 Niagara region had a population of 427,421, so 100,000 aborted children in 1993 (or earlier) seems like a lot. In fact, in all of Canada there were 1.2 million abortions between 1975 and 1993.
It's hard to see where this poster is getting its data from.
And could someone please point out to me a non-fundamentalist pro-life organization that refers to "aborted children" as opposed to "aborted fetuses"?
4/28/2011 7:05:20 PM
Well that's news, abortions are good for the environment.
Good to know.
4/28/2011 9:57:32 PM
@ AllegoryForJesus --
Wow, Arbiter. "Fetuses are Children and abortions make toys cry!" is equivalent to "There is probably no god, let's get on with our lives already"? Kind of gotta factor in reasonability into the equation, ya know.
Haven't you been paying attention to
media outlet in the last 10 years (or more)? "Reasonability", or any actual reference to the content of arguments
to reality, is clearly a liberal and/or socialist conspiracy. The legitimacy of
means of evaluating positions can only be determined by the outcome: if it provides a "balance" between the far right and the center right (with hints of the inherent legitimacy of the right wing), it's a fair comparison; if the primary criterion is adherence to
, though, then there's clearly left-wing bias at work.
4/28/2011 10:17:22 PM
Hey, why don't you donate all those toys to the hundreds of millions of REAL children who have no toys to play with?
4/29/2011 12:08:36 AM
If there were more children in the world there would presumably be more toys manufactured. Supply-and-demand, and all that stuff.
I have to agree - this is one of the most pathetic anti-abortion messages I have ever seen.
4/29/2011 2:03:59 AM
"I mean, pro-lifers have generally been outspoken advocates of unfettered access to contraceptives, supported unbiased, proactive, non-abstinence based sex ed in public schools, and have always pushed for a robust social welfare system for young/poor mothers and their children, so I feel that it's okay for them to oppose abortion when they're so dedicated to the aforementioned causes."
Not to mention if a single mother goes out to work to improve the family situation, she's a bad mother abandoning her kids, and if she doesn't she's a welfare queen!
I thought the political right believed in the OMG FREE MARKET!?
4/29/2011 5:32:31 AM
"Protip: Toy Story is fiction!"
The film "Small Soldiers", with the concept of action figures with military-spec. AI CPUs installed, would blow their minds.
(Damn good Joe Dante film, that!)
4/29/2011 7:26:46 AM
What about all the sperm lost when a guy ejaculates? They could have been people too!
Oh wait, pro-lifers only care about controlling women's bodies. Never mind.
4/30/2011 8:09:32 AM
3 million toys will have fewer children to play with because of the christian militarys' "freindly fire"
4/30/2011 9:33:09 AM
One this planet is overpopulated. Two, is this implying that children are toys?
4/30/2011 6:01:31 PM
Just give that toy to some other kid.
There, problem solved.
5/27/2011 5:29:28 AM
Overpopulation: Because we have infinite resources and the Earth is a bottomless garbage can!
Also; Misogyny: Because women should be barefoot and pregnant and not have a choice about it!
7/4/2011 7:17:42 AM
Life Wars! Revenge of the Toys!
I had been hoping Canada would have been a slightly smarter place to live. In retrospect, the US has more fundies that are flame-able.
9/5/2011 12:18:20 PM
This is fetishism* of the highest order. ;)
*the belief that a commodity possesses human properties.
3/21/2012 4:05:17 PM