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"You blame Satan yet forget that he was God's creation and an archangel at that. Archangel means chief of the angels and next to God as near perfect as possible, yet; you blame Satan for all the ills and give him more power than the omniscient God you worship?

A very confusing situation if I may say so!


I don't blame God for cantankerous, whining atheists either. That is their choice and not His fault, the same as satan had his choice. Not be fooled, in the end BOTH will be dealt with by God. Satan had his time and it is over for him. His fate is sealed and it will be dealt with by God. This is man's time, we still have hope, but in the end, we will ALL be dealt with by God. He's already explained it and made it very clear what you should choose. Don't blame Him if YOU choose wrong. I won't.

God is so superior to both satan and man and WILL have HIS way. He has offered it to all His creation. He's not to be blamed if they refuse it. He is the righteous Judge and EVERY KNEE will bow and EVERY tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord!!! That means you and your buddies whether it is a forced bow or a willing bow. That is your choice. You WILL bow!!!"

Inan3, Christian Forums 74 Comments [4/28/2011 3:48:31 AM]
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The_L

"That means you and your buddies whether it is a forced bow or a willing bow. That is your choice. You WILL bow!!!"

I don't think I want to worship the kind of deity that would force me to bow to him.

4/28/2011 3:58:05 AM

towey

Kratos will hunt you down if you don't bow

4/28/2011 4:04:21 AM



You forget: God is supposedly omnipotent and omniscient. That means it is well within his ability to see exactly what anyones choices will be and what exact consequences those choices will have years before those choices are even made. Furthermore, he has the ability to alter those choices, or at least what contributes to those choices. He can also alter the consequences. And, being omnipotent, it doesn’t take God any effort at all.

As such, when someone here on Earth makes an Evil choice that carries Evil consequences, God is guilty of allowing that Evil to occur.

Omnipotence and omniscience carry with themselves omniresponsibility.

“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”
- atributed to Edmund Burke

4/28/2011 4:06:16 AM

C_V


*giggles* careful of your blood-pressure Fantasy Man(or Woman)

4/28/2011 4:31:16 AM

Mithras

More like God is omni-impotent, otherwise he wouldn't have to force people to stroke his ego.

4/28/2011 4:35:00 AM

dionysus

That means you and your buddies whether it is a forced bow or a willing bow. That is your choice. You WILL bow!!!

Ah, I see and being the "good Christian" that you are you wouldn't mind being the one applying the force. Because we all know that if god wants something done in this world he's not going to do it himself. No, he needs his meat puppets to do it for him.

4/28/2011 4:58:35 AM

shadkat

Hmm...

"That means you and your buddies whether it is a forced bow or a willing bow. That is your choice. You WILL bow!!!"

Where have I seen that before....?

...

Oh, right, Lord Voldemort v. Harry Potter. Graveyard scene. Fourth book. "'I said bow,' Voldemort said, raising his wand--and Harry felt his spine curve as though a huge hand was bending him ruthlessly forward...(GoF p660)

So God is like Voldemort apparently. 'Splains a lot.

4/28/2011 4:59:14 AM

Raised by Horses

Another obsequious toady cowering behind his giant invisible friend. Nothing to see here.

4/28/2011 5:18:02 AM

Mister Spak

Allah is so superior to both satan and man and WILL have HIS way. He has offered it to all His creation. He's not to be blamed if they refuse it. He is the righteous Judge and EVERY KNEE will bow and EVERY tongue confess that Allah is lord!!! That means you and your buddies whether it is a forced bow or a willing bow. That is your choice. You WILL bow!!! Because Islam is the real religion.

Fixed.



4/28/2011 5:19:26 AM

Table Rock

Kneel before Zod God!

4/28/2011 5:32:24 AM

John_in_Oz

I can never keep my fiction straight- is the insurrection of 30% of the Angels Christianity or Scientology?

4/28/2011 6:05:14 AM



Don't believe in Satan myself but if my Christian mythology is correct then he was a Cherub...not an archangel

4/28/2011 6:10:02 AM

nutbunny

No, I will not

4/28/2011 6:27:57 AM



He's already explained it and made it very clear what you should choose.

By holding a proverbial gun to our heads with the whole damnation thing. Yeah, that's choice and freewill for ya. [/sarcasm]

4/28/2011 6:31:59 AM

meh

from what I've heard Satan's a nice bloke. This 'God' you speak of however is pure evil
on another note* I myself prefer the Greek Underworld it's so much cooler than this xtian hell I keep hearing about
and Hades rocks =P

4/28/2011 6:32:19 AM

JohnTheAtheist

Capitalizing random words for emphasis means that you are correct.

4/28/2011 6:33:17 AM

Pule Thamex

So, it seems that the witless God of abject toadies and easily tempted weaklings hovers smugly somewhere between its snug little nest in your skull and its lounging place among the cumuli.

I invite your pathetic excuse for a deity to make a personal appearance to ask me nicely to stop mocking Him. Though I'm thinking to myself, "Is it my mockery that is making Him kill other people instead of me because He has such poor aim?" But then I think, "No, can't be. He doesn't even exist".

4/28/2011 6:36:04 AM

lisamariefan

All the power with none of the responsibility...

You know, it defeats the point of free will if you can be so severely punished for merely having an opposing opinion. Might as well just have a thought police. Oh wait, that's what Christians and other religions (the more extreme of them, at least) try to be!

4/28/2011 6:40:12 AM

Anon-e-moose

"God is so superior to both satan and man"

Oh yeah. So superior in fact, that it seems Satan showed greater restraint and morals:



And as I'm an Atheist, the fact I've yet to kill just one single person to date, means I must be going wrong somewhere, re morality.

(*slaps forehead*)

...oh yes, how stupid of me?! I should have realised: the very fact I've never killed anyone in my life, nor do I want to ever, must therefore make the sane, logical person come to just one conclusion:

I am therefore infinitely superior to God.

Further proof that I'm superior to God? One hyper-simple thing that yours truly, every other Atheist - and even you Inan3 (unfortunately) can do that your so-called omnipotent 'God' can't:

Exist.

I love the smell of destroyed arguments in the morning. Smells like... victory.

"and WILL have HIS way."

See what I mean, re. morality? Not just a hyper-dictator infinitely worse than Genghis Khan, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot etc, God's a sexually depraved perv too.

4/28/2011 6:54:04 AM

StoneSpiral

Why is it that at the end I think of that cute little 'Darth Sariah' girl on Youtube?

4/28/2011 7:04:59 AM

Horsefeathers

"I don't blame God for cantankerous, whining atheists either. That is their choice and not His fault, the same as satan had his choice.

Your god is both omniscient and omnipotent. Anything that happens is directly and only because he allows it to.

"Not be fooled, in the end BOTH will be dealt with by God."

Yeah? What's taking so fucking long?

"Satan had his time and it is over for him."

Then why do you people fear him and say that he's doing this, that and the other thing?

"His fate is sealed and it will be dealt with by God."

Again, what the holy fuck is your god waiting on?

"This is man's time, we still have hope, but in the end, we will ALL be dealt with by God. He's already explained it and made it very clear what you should choose. Don't blame Him if YOU choose wrong. I won't."

Your god has never explained a damned thing to anyone, so far as I can tell.

"God is so superior to both satan and man and WILL have HIS way."

That's nice. Again, when is your god going to get off his ass and do anything?

"He has offered it to all His creation. He's not to be blamed if they refuse it."

See my first point.

"He is the righteous Judge and EVERY KNEE will bow and EVERY tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord!!! That means you and your buddies whether it is a forced bow or a willing bow. That is your choice. You WILL bow!!!""

This bullshit, more than anything else, shows without a doubt that your Wholly Babble was written by humans with no divine intervention.

4/28/2011 7:19:15 AM

elphada

These folks are always so dramatic-old-testament-prophet when lecturing somebody.

4/28/2011 7:22:53 AM

vaiyt

And yet, you didn't answer the question.

Isn't God the all-powerful puppetmaster, who planned every life and knows who goes to hell and who doesn't? Oh, that is only when it's convenient to brand yourself as the "elect", isn't it? When it's time to tell others are guilty, it becomes a choice.

Hypocrites, the lot of you.

4/28/2011 7:31:27 AM

Mudak

Everyone, sing with me, with vigor... (Thanks to Holly Near)

I ain't afraid of your Yahweh
I ain't afraid of your Allah
I ain't afraid of your Jesus
I'm afraid of what you do in the name of your God

I ain't afraid of your churches
I ain't afraid of your temples
I ain't afraid of your praying
I'm afraid of what you do in the name of your God

Rise up to your higher power
Free up from fear, it will devour you
Watch out for the ego of the hour
The ones who say they know it
Are the ones who will impose it on you

I ain't afraid of your Yahweh
I ain't afraid of your Allah
I ain't afraid of your Jesus
I'm afraid of what you do in the name of your God

I ain't afraid of your churches
I ain't afraid of your temples
I ain't afraid of your praying
I'm afraid of what you do in the name of your God

Rise up, and find a higher story
Free up from the gods of war and glory
Watch out for the threats of purgatory
The spirit of the wind won’t make a killing off of sin and satan

I ain't afraid of your Bible
I ain't afraid of your Torah
I ain't afraid of your Koran
Dont let the letter of the law
Obsure the spirit of the your love--it's killing us

I ain't afraid of your Yahweh
I ain't afraid of your Allah
I ain't afraid of your Jesus
I'm afraid of what you do in the name of your God

I ain't afraid of your churches
I ain't afraid of your temples
I ain't afraid of your praying
I'm afraid of what you do in the name of your God


Money
Culture
Choices
I’m afraid of what you do in the name of your God

Sunday
Spirit
Teachers
I’m afraid of what you do in the name of your God

Sabbath
Borders
Dances
I’m afraid of what you do in the name of your God double

Children
Music
Stories
I’m afraid of what you do in the name of your God

Rise up to your higher power
Free up
Rise up to your higher power
Free up
Let's try to be highly evolved
I aint afraid

4/28/2011 7:49:14 AM

TB Tabby

So THERE! NYEH!

4/28/2011 8:20:03 AM
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