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Hmmm... fascist, militarist, warmongering, psychotic, shallow, physical beauty obsessed, hyper-masculine, woman and feminine homosexual repressing... sounds like America.
5/17/2011 10:06:09 AM
Actually Rome was unquestionably christian when it fell but I think it is cool that you wantonly disregard facts when they are inconvenient to the conservative agenda.
5/17/2011 10:34:24 AM
Uh, Germany didn't tolerate homosexuality until relatively recently. Certainly during the Nazi period, which is what I assume you're referring to, gays were sent to the death camps.
Greece and Rome tolerated homosexuality - in some contexts anyway - but the reasons why those civilisations collapsed have nothing to do with that.
And also....oh fuck it, I'm wasting my time. The actual historical facts aren't important anyway, right?
5/17/2011 11:10:45 AM
Dude, Rome lasted as an empire for over a millenium and majorly influenced all Western culture. If accepting faggotry makes you that enduring, I think it would be a GOOD thing to do.
5/17/2011 12:22:38 PM
@1289634: I think the line about "Welcome to 2011..." was delivered in sarcasm, since it's then followed up with "...now just two all-purpose synonyms for "bad" in Teabag world." I'm sure 1289628 is aware that fascism and socialism not the same thing. Teabaggers, on the other hand...
...militarist, warmongering, psychotic, shallow, physical beauty obsessed, hyper-masculine, homosexual repressing hellholes...
That, unfortunately, sounds like the US as it is already. And it's even worse when Republicans are running the place. >_>
5/17/2011 1:05:15 PM
...I would very much like to see what history books this person was studying with.
5/17/2011 1:13:22 PM
Rome had a period of prosperity lasting thousands of years. It fell after the Christians took it over. Those homosexuals sure brought it down!
5/17/2011 1:52:05 PM
I don't recall reading about any time in history when there was a uniquely "German" civilization. The mix of Germanic and Celtic tribes that the Romans encountered would hardly qualify as a civilization, and the Germans have been part of the broadly defined European culture ever since.
5/17/2011 2:19:35 PM
[Considering that the last 3 civilizations that accepted faggotry (Greek, Roman and German) ended up facist, socialist, pedophile, militarist, warmongering, psychotic...]
Actually, most nations like that fall because of religion, not homosexuality.
And I don't claim to be an historian, but I'm pretty certain ancient China accepted some forms of homosexuality.
5/17/2011 9:07:20 PM
Oriental nations do have a long-held (as in millenia old) social stigma against homosexuality but, to my knowledge, have never been as murderously intent on persecution as westerners. While gays and lesbians were not exactly embraced, they didn't ruffle quite so many feathers.
The stigma itself is derived not from homosexuality being 'an abomination' or 'unnatural' in their eyes, but as being inconvenient for the purposes of carrying on a family name and the duties associated with it.
To the Japanese in particular marriage is still more of a business arrangement than a spiritual pursuit, thus a child who will not bear offspring is less marriagable and doesn't quite fit into this plan. In this way, being gay is seen as shirking duty to the family.
I'm not sure how being bisexual and screwing someone on the side is treated if you do get married but your spouse is cool with that. I'm kind of curious.
Moreover as a homogenous society that values conformity anyone who doesn't quite fit in is naturally shunned, but not necessarily tormented. Not that this distinction makes life any easier for anyone out-of-closet.
5/17/2011 11:30:13 PM
Odd, how the most adamant homophobes are the ones most obsessed with discussing homosexuality, and in unnecessarily graphic detail...
5/18/2011 12:23:58 AM
...that is so nonsensical I...what?
The least moonbatty thing might be the historically founded observation that ancient homosexual practice was highly pseudo-gendered and dominance-coded (check out the Latin terminology some time; some of its nastiest curse words are verbs for gay sex acts), but I think that was an accident on Pete's part and it's set within a nonsensical bit about usefulness.
The most batty is probably the Germany part, because when exactly are Germany and homosexuality notably linked? The tribes aren't known for it one way or the other...is this that gay Nazi myth again? Seriously?
5/18/2011 1:11:57 AM
You can't fool that Pete. If the Nazis oppressed gays, they must have been closet gays. Pete knows, because he oppresses gays.
5/18/2011 1:45:37 AM
Fundies Make Me Sick
There are countries that accept homosexuality today and they're all doing just fine so you fail. Please go back into the cave/hole from which you crawled out of and stay there because we need less people like you in the world.
5/18/2011 6:33:02 AM
Germany accepted gays?, if you're talking about Hitler, he sent them to concentration camps.
5/18/2011 8:05:54 AM
"...facist, socialist, pedophile, militarist, warmongering, psychotic, shallow, physical beauty obsessed, hyper-masculine, woman and feminine homosexual repressing hellholes"
I hear they also had kitchen sinks.
5/18/2011 10:46:08 AM
"Considering that the last 3 civilizations that accepted faggotry (Greek, Roman and German) ended up facist, socialist, pedophile, militarist, warmongering, psychotic, shallow, physical beauty obsessed, hyper-masculine, woman and feminine homosexual repressing hellholes"
Sounds like a perfect description of America to me.
5/18/2011 11:23:36 AM
Ancient Greece was full of gays so now they don't exist.
Awesome logic. On par with "If Einstein was so smart, how comes he's dead?!"
5/18/2011 12:34:07 PM
Why doesn't anyone on the right know what the words fascist and socialist mean?
Or know anything at all about history.
5/21/2011 2:47:26 AM
For fucks sake
Sorry but there never really was any notion of a Greek "Empire" or cohesive state anyway so how could it fall?
5/21/2011 7:58:44 AM
Rome successfully fornicated and debauched its way through the centuries...it wasn't until Christianity was introduced as the official religion of the Roman Empire that it fell apart, bringing on a dark age.
5/21/2011 11:27:09 PM
German civilization doesn't exist anymore?
The Greek empire was absorbed into the Roman empire, the roman empire died because of malaria. If you mean the Nazis, then no, they didn't accept homosexuality because they sent gays to concentration camps.
5/24/2011 4:29:28 PM
I won't even address how not true it is. Instead I should note that two out of three of those actually embraced something else shortly before their downfall, you know what it was? Christianity
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