Funny thing... if it wasn't for the Catholics... these Protestants wouldn't be here. And, I've been to mass with my wife and daughter (no, I'm not Catholic) enough to know that Catholics are Christians... and you know what, Marcion? If you read the Fathers of the Church, you know what you'll find? That they were... wait for it... Catholic!
5/22/2011 3:48:55 PM
Theology fail. Catholics don't worship Mary and especially not as a goddess, they simply feel that the best way to get Jesus to do anything is to have his mother put in a good word for them.
5/22/2011 4:00:33 PM
Translation: "Nobody's a real Christian except me and the 60 members of my independent fundamentalist church."
5/22/2011 4:25:48 PM
Somebody's been getting his religious information from Chick tracts.
5/22/2011 4:56:22 PM
To be somewhat fair, some of the more fringe Catholics do seem to worship Mary and even place more value on her than they do on God or Jesus. They just don't like admitting to it.
But this is still pretty stupid.
5/22/2011 5:00:32 PM
Someone doesn't understand Catholicism.
If there were a scintilla of truth in what Marcion saysm, then Christianity was invented by Luther in about 1519 AD, and even he was fond of the Virgin.
So your religion is purly man-invented! No need to bother about it, then.
5/22/2011 5:16:09 PM
Raised by Horses
You know, he's got something of a point. If Christians acted more like... well, Christ, I'd have far fewer reasons to take exception with religion.
5/22/2011 5:31:35 PM
So...is Marcion an Orthodox Christian? Because otherwise, s/he's a Protestant, and Protestants have even more of a hardon for Paul than the Catholics do.
5/22/2011 5:32:39 PM
Yeah, but the higher-ups in their clergy have those long, pointy hats and you don't. So nyah, nyah!
5/22/2011 6:47:28 PM
As a Catholic-turned-Atheist, CATHOLICISM DOES NOT FUCKING WORK THAT WAY! Sorry for the caps, but the argument frustrates the hell out of me.
5/22/2011 7:21:51 PM
Join the club buddy. Non christians are astounded at the level of ignorance christians have for their own founder.
5/22/2011 7:38:06 PM
He's right about Paul, but the Catholics thing is in a whole other dimension.
5/22/2011 9:36:43 PM
So wait, if Catholics aren't Christians, and non-Catholics aren't Christians....
There are no Christians?
5/22/2011 9:49:17 PM
And no True Scotsman puts sugar in his porridge!
5/22/2011 11:00:59 PM
Old man of the mountain
Paul who ? McCartney ?
5/22/2011 11:17:04 PM
I really like it when they don't do any research on things they hate. It's so inane that i can't help but to laugh.
5/23/2011 1:05:08 AM
Well, as an Italian , I do see how worship of saints and Mary verges on idolatry. I'm actually quite amazed, as an atheist, of how ignorant and even borderline-blasphemous catholic believers can be. But then again, incorporating minor pagan deities in "official" religion is the price you pay for quickly expanding christianity.
5/23/2011 1:46:06 AM
Typical ignorant Protestant fundie strawman.
5/23/2011 3:41:59 AM
A lot of protestants really are more Paulstian than Christian. I was raised extremely Paulstian.
5/23/2011 4:17:49 AM
It's a stupid thing to say, but hardly Fundie.
His user name 'Maricon' means 'fag'.
He's dissing Catholics and Protestants both, and while I wouldn't have said what he did, I can't see it qualifying as either religiously or secularly Fundie.
EDIT: My mistake.
His user-name is 'Marcion', the name of one of the earliest Christian heretics.
So, he's still dissing both Catholic and Protestant, but arguing for a third flavour of turd soup.
5/23/2011 5:02:15 AM
The pope said you aren't a real christian.
5/23/2011 5:23:17 AM
Good heavens... this guy's a gnostic Jack Chick. It's like he took that argument straight from "The Death Cookie" or something.
Though he does seem to be right about fundies and Paul...
5/23/2011 5:31:06 AM
Don't forget they worship statues and steal babies.
5/23/2011 8:50:16 AM
Marcion was doing fairly well, until that bolded part...
5/23/2011 11:08:04 AM
Fawful has seen God has a vagina on top of his penis.
5/23/2011 11:46:05 AM