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I said the Left hides their agenda, I didn't say they do it well.

It's an open secret that the Left wants to exalt homosexuality, denigrate the nuclear family and fathers in particular, dismantle the military, nationalize healthcare, reduce our property rights to serfdom (the progressive income tax and the Kelo S. Ct. decision), raise taxes, nationalize the oil industry, criminalize tobacco and red meat, legalize prostitution and pedophilia, outlaw christianity and capitalism

Joisey, TrekBBS 18 Comments [10/18/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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That must be a pretty closed open secret. I'm liberal, and I didn't know I wanted to do all that.

Huh. Live and learn.

10/18/2005 2:24:58 PM

Darth Wang

Although some of it sounds like a good idea

10/18/2005 2:55:02 PM

Jesse Custer

I'm firmly of the opinion that prostitution should be legal. If it were a commercially regulated industry, there'd be a lot less crime and abuse associated with it. And I betcha divorce rates would drop like a motherfucker, too!

10/18/2005 5:08:16 PM


I'd like to see tobacco criminalized. Then maybe I could quit smoking.

10/18/2005 7:42:15 PM


Well, I'm a moderate-liberal, and I agree with exactly one of those 14 ideas. And most liberals would probably agree on three or four of them tops.

10/18/2005 10:30:07 PM

Jesse Custer

Yahweh - the property rights thing that I -think- he's talking about is the eminent domain issue.

Basically, what it says is that if the government feels that you are not making adequate use of your property, and someone else has a better plan (read: a plan that generates more tax revenue), the government can force you to sell it to the person with that better plan.

10/19/2005 1:19:08 AM


Yahweh, well said, but I'll make a little point.

Canada has national healthcare. What's putting it in jeopardy is industrial agriculture and dietary retardation. I think if you could fix it with something other than \"eat whole wheat or it's six months in jail\" Americans could probably enjoy a decent medicare program. :)

10/20/2005 2:14:29 PM


The Kelo case is indeed the eminent domain case.
The city (more correctly the New London Development Corporation) tried to evict an entire working class neighborhood so that private entities could put up luxury condominiums and a hotel and convention center (as it promised Pfizer).
That doesn't sound very liberal to me.

10/27/2005 8:49:28 PM

Dr. Shrinker

Well at least he's not on to our plans to burn all existing prints of "Leave it to Beaver"

12/1/2008 4:17:07 PM


IMO it takes a special kind of cunt to be against having national healthcare.

12/1/2008 4:38:37 PM

I Read About The Afterlife

Aw Damn. Joisey found out our agenda...We probably shouldn't have those shirts that say "HOMOSEXUALITY! DENIGRATE THE FAMILY! NAMBLA! NO CHRISTIANITY! YAY!"

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1/22/2010 10:50:12 AM


I live in a rather socialist country (right now we have a right-wing government, but it would seem kind of left-wing to you). We don't want to "exalt" homosexuality, they are just like everyone else, no reason to put them higher or lower than anyone else. Most children live in families with two parents (regardless of gender). When you go to a doctor you pay about 30 Euros total for all things connected to that visit. As we think killing is wrong, we have a problem with militaries. We don't have serfdom; everybody pays taxes according to their income; those who have the largest income pay the highest taxes, those who have very little pay very little, too. We don't have any oil, but we do have gold and other kinds of mines and lots of timber. Paying for prostitution is illegal, as is pedophilia and any kind of child abuse. We have both Christianity and Capitalism.

1/22/2010 2:45:37 PM


Funny, the only ones who know this secret Liberal agenda are never Liberals themselves. Odd.

1/22/2010 2:54:34 PM


And the republicans with their tax cuts for the rich, reduced minimum wage, outsourcing of jobs and privatizing the military are doing exactly what? Face it, your feudal masters have brainwashed you perfectly. You don't even realize that your literally saying "I want to be oppressed! I want the rich to get richer off my hard work! I want them to slowly grind down our national mental and physical health with privatized health care, subsidies for food that makes us sick, less vacations, less pay and less personal freedoms."

Seriously, if this country outlawed homeschooling, eliminated college tuition and put more effort into getting the public schools to run right, people would wake up and realize : Wait a minute, it's not the poor crack addicted thief on the street corner that causes the most damage to society, it's the rich and powerful that we have so wrongly believed had ulterior motives, when in actuality, their power allows them to break the law in oh so much more meaningful and damaging ways.

Go serve the party, motherfucker. I hope the ministry of truth gets a hold of you and executes you for being too willing of a slave. They want to break you, but you're just too easy. They broke you before you were born.

America, you're fucked.

6/11/2010 10:26:13 AM

Professor M

Of political philosophies with some pull in the U.S., the ones that come closest to promoting a situation of "serfdom" (or tenant farming in a debt-peonage situation) are the hard-line capitalist, Libertarian-affiliated ones. "Property rights" and "contract rights" for that crowd add up to a situation where a system of wealthy landowners exercising dictatorial power over an "employee" class who have "freely" signed away their rights and are trapped in debt bondage gets called "freedom".

6/11/2010 1:08:00 PM


Normal rhetoric for a modern Republican.

9/15/2012 10:54:46 AM


Well, as I am pretty far left (democratic libertarian socialist), let's take a look at this:
"exalt homosexuality" No, actually I would love a society that doesn't give a rat's ass about sexual orientation (end to the categorization of sexuality).
"denigrate the nuclear family and fathers in particular" - No, but I believe that parents should have less control over their children, particularly concerning education, religion and sexual relations.
"dismantle the military" - Well, yes, but only if no state in the world needs it anymore.
"nationalize healthcare" - Yes, because it works.
"reduce our property rights to serfdom" - Well, I would actually drop property rights (both private and public) and substitute them with usage rights.
"raise taxes" - As in my ideal society there wouldn't be any money, that's rather impossible.
"criminalize tobacco and red meat" - Nope, and btw I do smoke myself.
"legalize prostitution and pedophilia" - Prostitution would be impossible in my ideal system, since there isn't any money nor property. Pedophilia no, though I would give a lot of leeway on consensual sex when people are over the age of 14 (which would not constitute pedophilia but ephebophilia).
"outlaw christianity and capitalism" - I actually do believe that freedom of religion should not be dropped in any given society. And yes, of course, I'm a socialist so capitalism would have to die.


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