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I came across an article stating that the homosexuals in California are trying to attack Judaism by outlawing circumcision. It is generally known that homosexuals prefer uncircumcised boys and they are trying to make their preference the law of the land. This is another reason why all synagogues in The United States should support my candidate. Many are circumcised because it is considered more hygienic, which I disagree with. But circumcision is the symbol that bonds my chosen people to me. And though I do not require it of everyone it is such a fundamental part of their faith that I do not believe people of other religions have a right to tell them that they can't practice it. This law is a direct attack on Judaism! The nation of Israel as a whole should condemn it, and, condemn those putting it forth. I ask all the people of California to vote against this proposition, to support the reasonable right of others to practice their religious beliefs. To compare male circumcision to the abomination of female circumcision which is taught nowhere in The Scriptures, shows how deranged these people are! I would order that those putting forth this proposition be removed from The Book Of Life, but as we have found they already have been, there would be no sense in making such a proclamation.

Gerald Polley, Voices From Spirit 80 Comments [5/25/2011 3:14:22 AM]
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The thing is, your beliefs involve mutilating babies. Fuck your beliefs. They are not worthy of respect.

5/25/2011 8:50:09 AM

TakoTaco

@ Anon-e-moose
Gerald had better not watch the short 8-minute "Panty & Stocking (with Garterbelt)" DVD/Blu-Ray-only OVA, if he knows what's good for him.

What, the "Prickles"? My god, that was probably the most disturbing thing I've ever seen from that show.

I actually hadn't seen the OVA before and had to search for it just now. Shame on me, I love PSG.

5/25/2011 9:06:35 AM

Anon-e-moose

@TakoTaco

I'll certainly never look at a packet of Salt & Vinegar Hula Hoops the same way again. XP

...but as the joke goes, the same by-product (those that aren't deep-fried & packaged as snacks) is also what goes into the making of Kosher covers for iPads. However, one has to be careful - if you stroke the wrong side, said covering turns into a suitcase. X3

A thought: considering that ending of "P&S(w/G)", and how Gainax had even Gainax Ending'd- the concept of the 'Gainax Ending' itself, if that's what Stocking actually is, then what does that make Scanty & Kneesocks?!

Oh, "P&S(w/G")" series 2, I wait with baited breath (not smelling of salt & vinegar Hula Hoops! XP ).

PROTIP: Even though we realise Briefs' real significance (re 'Hell's Monkey') frankly I found Chuck to be far more entertaining than Geek Boy. [/opinion worth 20p]

5/25/2011 9:47:32 AM

gay deist

Oh who gives a fuck either way?
Oh boo hoo other people have a different looking penis than me!

on one side it's stupid to get worked up over people who don't circumcize their kids. Other than cleaning and aesthetical purposes there is no real big need for it to happen.

and on the other hand it's also stupid to get worked up that people do, do it. "it's against the babie's consent" oh shut up. It's a fucking baby. What's gonna happen? The kid is going to grow up to be a teen, be attracted to uncut cocks and hate his parents forever because his isn't the same?

It's a foreskin.


5/25/2011 10:03:08 AM

TakoTaco

@Anon-e-moose

I think both Panty and Stocking were more screwed up than Scanty and Kneesocks to begin with. The devils are both more responsible, albeit evil, they show signs of having morals, and are strictly following their rules whereas our angels are frivolous, perverted (at least the devils only had their food orgy in private), careless and only do things for their own sakes.

Remove all ghosts from the equation and the devil/angel positions are a little upside down here, aren't they? My point being that Stocking apparently being evil doesn't necessarily make Scanty and Kneesocks any more or less evil.

Regarding Brief and Chuck, I'm surprised to hear your opinion. Everyone I know hates Chuck, and Chuck to the Future was my runner-up for most disturbing shit spawned by PSG. I like Brief on the other hand, mostly because of the gay/pedo priest insinuations that occur everytime he's unfortunate enough to be near Garterbelt.

5/25/2011 10:20:54 AM

amazed

Uh..huh. What's the matter, a Jewish guy kicked you when you were kids?

5/25/2011 10:34:13 AM

TakoTaco

@gay deist

Yes, it's a foreskin. Some suggest the removal of it leads to greater pleasure. Some suggest it may lead to a decrease in pleasure because many nerve ends are lost with circumcision, and apparently these are even the most sensitive on the penis.
The foreskin may also serve to lessen friction during sex as the gland slides back into it when the penis is pulled out and the skin remains just a little more stationary. Take that as something good or something bad, but there's only so much abuse the vagina can take, and unless the guy only lasts two minutes anyway, the reduction of friction may keep the vagina from getting sore as fast as it would otherwise.

According to wikipedia a Korean survey found that 48% of males had a decrease in pleasure from masturbation after circumcision while only 8% felt an increase in pleasure. Also 63% had increased difficulty masturbating while 37% found it easier. The same survey found that 20% of participants reported a worse sex life as opposed to 6% who said it had improved.

Please don't tell me it's just a foreskin. There may be debate over whether or not it improves sexual functions, but let it be up to the individual. You can remove it any time you like, but it can never be put back on.
I'd be kind of pissed with my parents if they had removed my, say, earlobes for any non-surgical reasons, and they don't even serve a practical purpose. If I were a guy I think I'd be even more keen on making that kind of decisions on my penis than as an un-pierced girl on something as insignificant as earlobes. It's my body, and how I have it mutilated should be completely up to me, and the same goes for everybody else.

5/25/2011 10:50:11 AM

dionysus

I came across an article stating that the homosexuals

I hope you at least cleaned up the pages before you put it back on the shelf.

/bad quote mining

5/25/2011 11:13:28 AM

Old Viking

I have a friend who's a mohel. He says the pay is lousy, but the tips are good.

5/25/2011 1:06:23 PM

TheJebusFire

[ It is generally known that homosexuals prefer uncircumcised boys and they are trying to make their preference the law of the land.]


Got some hidden desires there buddy?

5/25/2011 2:34:00 PM

WickedWitch

I oppose illegalizing circumcision just because of the possibility of underground icky DIY-methods, but your bigotry is just appalling.

5/25/2011 4:39:04 PM

The Jamo

The problem isn't with circumcision itself, but rather with performing it on a child that did not consent to it. Later in life, when the said child is able to make an informed choice, he [she] can choose to have it done. There is no problem with that.

As for circumcision for the purposes of hygiene, there's this thing they've invented, it's called [size=18]SOAP.[/size] When you use it regularly it prevents many infections.

5/25/2011 4:40:29 PM

mathius_dragoon

I don't think that circumcision should be preformed on infants because the surgery is permanent, and they do really get to choose for themselves. That being said, I don't think there is a constitutional way to block the rights of parents to make decisions for their children, either medical or religious.

5/25/2011 4:56:48 PM



It is generally known that homosexuals prefer uncircumcised boys...

Your complete bigotry and ignorance is on full show right there in that sentence. I don't suppose you can cite any sources? Didn't think so. It's just another despicable attempt by the Religious Reich to paint the gays as terrorists.
FOAD.

5/25/2011 5:30:03 PM

clockworkgirl21

No, they're trying to outlaw circumcision because it's a cosmetic operation done on someone too young to consent. That's all.

And some forms of female circumcision are just like male circumcision. Not all forms involve cutting off the clitoris or sewing up the vagina. It's hypocritical to outlaw one but not the other.

TakoTaco, thanks! Too many people think male circumcision is cleaner/healthier, but it simply isn't.

5/25/2011 6:37:26 PM

Raised by Horses

"That being said, I don't think there is a constitutional way to block the rights of parents to make decisions for their children, either medical or religious."

Our laws forbid parents to kill or mutilate their children. Is that unconstitutional?

The real point here is that there is no good basis for circumcision (male or female) on medical grounds (religious grounds are invalid, since they beg the question without offering any real proof of the value of this act), and yet it is being performed on children who are unable to reject or accept it, any more than they would be able to turn down having an ear removed or their eyes sown shut for religious reasons.

If there really is a medical benefit to circumcision, fine, let's have the evidence. But we need to let people decide for themselves whether or not they want it performed on them when they have reached the age to have the ability to make that choice for themselves.

5/25/2011 7:13:03 PM

Liberal Christian

You're mutilating the genitalia of someone who can't give their consent. That's why circumcision is wrong.

5/25/2011 7:17:17 PM

Deep Search

I'm pretty sure they want routine circumcision outlawed because you're altering a child's genitals perminanty without a valid medical reason. I don't think religious doctrine makes it alright to cut off a part of a kid's penis, either. Even if it's been done for forever doesn't make it okay. If your religion is shattered because you can't cut off part of a child's penis you might want to question some things.

And, uh... How this guy manged to involve anti-gay crazy conspiracy into this is reeeeaaally a stretch.

5/25/2011 7:38:24 PM

FatherToBe

Now I'm a liberal, athiest, well educated guy but when someone tries to stop me doing what both my and my wifes doctor know to have proven medical benefits to MY soon to be born son I get very annoyed. Plus I don't want him to be forced to grow up knowing that he is different than most other boys even when his father didn't want it to be that way.

5/25/2011 7:56:27 PM

FatherToBe

Now I'm a liberal, athiest, well educated guy but when someone tries to stop me doing what both my and my wifes doctor know to have proven medical benefits to MY soon to be born son I get very annoyed. Plus I don't want him to be forced to grow up knowing that he is different than most other boys even when his father didn't want it to be that way.

5/25/2011 8:01:41 PM

Percy Q. Shunn

For Zeus Almighty:

This one's for you!


5/25/2011 8:11:54 PM

Chest Rockwell

it is such a fundamental part of their faith that I do not believe people of other religions have a right to tell them that they can't practice it.

By your logic, this would also stand for suicidal muslims, right?

5/25/2011 8:15:24 PM

Anon

Actually, I am a fan of cut dick, as a gay man, however, I am not for doing it to children, it's their dick, their call.

5/25/2011 9:26:33 PM

Verbose

"I would order that those putting forth this proposition be removed from The Book Of Life..."

MY GOD! MY GOD!! I BOW BEFORE THEE! O, HAVE MERCY ON MY PITIFUL SOUL, FOR THOU ART TRULY THE LORD!!!one! [/sarcasm]

In all seriousness, removing people from the Book of Life is <b>God's</b> job. If you're God, go jump off the Empire State Building and prove it to us.

Thank you.

5/25/2011 9:40:03 PM

clockworkgirl21

FatherToBe, if you get your son circumcised, be sure to keep the doctor's information so your son can sue him for the loss of sensation to his glans that circumcision always causes when he grows up, like many men have successfully done.

And what's this MY SON stuff? Your son will be a human being, not property of his parents. Shouldn't he be the one who decides if he wants his highly sensitive foreskin or not?



5/26/2011 1:05:55 AM
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